SpaceX’s Starship rocket system reached several milestones in its second test flight before the rocket booster and spacecraft exploded over the Gulf of Mexico.

SpaceX’s Starship rocket system reached several milestones in its second test flight before the rocket booster and spacecraft exploded over the Gulf of Mexico.

  • Buffaloaf@lemmy.world
    21710·
    1 year ago

    I really wish they’d stop putting Musk’s name on things like this. He didn’t design the engines, he didn’t plan the flight path, he did nothing but throw a bunch of money at a company because he’s obsessed with Mars.

        • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          362·
          1 year ago

          Falcon 9 is the most reliable rocket in the world and it used to explode like this too. It’ll be 5-10 years of successful unmanned flights before anyone rides on this rocket.

            • kobra@lemm.ee
              155·
              1 year ago

              You literally said you were concerned for manned flight in your last comment. So originally it was the rocket and engineering you were concerned about.

              • Buffaloaf@lemmy.world
                82·
                1 year ago

                I said I was concerned because of the corner cutting, which isn’t an engineering problem

                • kobra@lemm.ee
                  74·
                  1 year ago

                  That might’ve been what you intended but it is not what you said. You didn’t bring that up until your 2nd comment.

              • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
                73·
                1 year ago

                You literally said you were concerned for manned flight in your last comment

                You’re oh so slightly twisting the dude’s words. What he said was:

                Which is why I’m nervous for when they decide to start doing manned flights.

                This could be expressing concern about the flights themselves, or about something that happens around the time the decision to start doing manned flights is taken - like cutting corners that leads to employees getting injured.

                Dude even clarified what he meant, and you’re like “nope, I won’t accept that”?

          • Neato@kbin.social
            722·
            1 year ago

            Was NASA exploding rockets this frequently when they pioneered all of this decades ago? It only took NASA 8 years to go from first entering space to landing on the moon. SpaceX is nowhere close to that and they’ve been launching rockets for 17 years.

              • Neato@kbin.social
                1013·
                1 year ago

                Damn you clearly know nothing about technological development. Elon stands on the shoulders of all those who gave their lives in the past. He benefits from all the safety regulations.

                And still with all of that. The tens of billions of dollars the government hands out to him. And more than twice the time of the Space Race he had accomplished so little. How many successful rockets did NASA develop in that time? A lot more than SpaceX.

            • QuinceDaPence@kbin.social
              71·
              1 year ago

              Different design processes and NASA has to appease Congress who likes to cut funding if a rocket blows up.

              But the Design-build-test-break-redesign-etc process that SpaceX uses is cheaper, quicker, and gives more data.

            • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
              3·
              1 year ago

              It took 8 Years AND $25 billions ($248 billions adjusted to today’s dollar value).

              For comparison NASA awarded a contract for spacex to develop the Human Landing System, the value of the contract is $2.89 billions.

            • porkins@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              1 year ago

              Exploding rockets is totally common in rocket science. In fact, their mission objective wasn’t even for the rocket to succeed at making it to space. When you put millions of pounds of fuel into a tube and heat it up, there is a lot to take into account. No one has ever launched anything this big, so they are going to have to iterate quite a few times. Even the computer models can’t catch everything. Sometimes it is as stupid as a bad part manufacturer.

            • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
              22·
              1 year ago

              No, but the resources given and the requirements set are different. The Saturn V did not have to be reusable and was awarded two orders of magnitude more funding. Which is ultimately why it stopped being made.

    • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
      92·
      1 year ago

      … throw a bunch of money at a company because he ’s obsessed with Mars. wanted to justify sending money to some Russian arm dealers friends.

      • cole@lemdro.idEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        what? didn’t he start SpaceX because Russia WOULDN’T take his money?

        • stopthatgirl7@kbin.socialOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          IIRC, they wouldn’t take his money because he misunderstood the price they wanted, tried to bargain it down and lowball them, and ended up pissing them off so much they doubled the price.

    • YⓄ乙 @aussie.zoneEnglish
      61·
      1 year ago

      Sadly, Thats how capitalism work hence they keep using Musk’s name. Anyone with money is valuable in our economy.

    • Marbles@discuss.tchncs.de
      649·
      1 year ago

      This just false. Sure, he did not do everything alone but he has a huge hand in engineering concepts and design decisions. Lots of hate and complete misunderstanding how spaceship, spaceX and Musk work in this thread.