exactly this. To all the folks saying “tHen jUsT dOn’T SiDELoAd” the whole point is that it’s not just allowing the users who want to sideload today, it’s opening the door for side loading to become THE way that major companies push folks to access their apps.
Regardless of what OS team you’re on, the “freedom” of the android and side loading is that it also requires a much higher degree of knowledge, decision making, and active self protection by the users - that inherently means more security/malware/support issues.
If you want or need all that, you’re probably gonna fucking hate a lot of things about iOS across the entire experience anyway, so you go Android. If you have zero understanding or desire to add that level of responsibility to your digital life, then maybe you aren’t married to Android and the iPhone simplifies this for you.
I think it’s a dumb pointless move to force side loading on iOS.
TL;DR
Some people want to drive stick shift, others want an automatic, others want all electric - this like saying all car models need to legally be made in all three versions or it can’t be made at all.
I agree. I think what most people don’t realize is that it’s very likely that the first adopters would be companies who can actually afford to do their own hosting, marketing, and distribution. No indie developer will decide to make their first app as an app store for the app they’re really trying to build.
Take Adobe, for example. They have 28 apps on the App Store right now. Assume I’m a person whose workflow relies critically on Adobe Acrobat Sign, and at the same time I’m the person who keeps getting told “then don’t sideload if you don’t want to.”
Adobe then decides to put all their apps on the Adobe App Store exclusively. Well, might as well throw that “Allow sideloading” toggle out the window because I don’t have a choice but to turn it on so I can continue to use Adobe Acrobat Sign, or leave it off and settle with a crappy experience in a browser or wherever.
But still, the keyword here is “exclusively”. If they make 3rd party app store apps equally available on the App Store, then we’re going to be okay, and I can leave my “Allow sideloading” toggle off.
How about just having lower fees on the app store and its in app purchases to not incentivize people to flee from it like it’s the plague? That’s what itch.io and Valve are doing and it sure seems to be working fine.
I’m honestly baffled by this community and it makes me feel like if the MS IE antitrust case happened today, most of this thread’s commenters would side with Microsoft or just be paid to say so.
this like saying all car models need to legally be made in all three versions or it can’t be made at all.
Yes, that is the point, software switches are easily added whereas transmission systems less so. The EU is forcing more social and commercial innovation into Apple than the whole 3 past years’ worth of work from their own departmens.
yeah lower fees would also 100% be a simple solution here too. When it was innovative and the only legit app store on the market, site maybe it was easier to get away with, but nowadays that lead has closed so it’s pretty wild they still take 30%
exactly this. To all the folks saying “tHen jUsT dOn’T SiDELoAd” the whole point is that it’s not just allowing the users who want to sideload today, it’s opening the door for side loading to become THE way that major companies push folks to access their apps.
Regardless of what OS team you’re on, the “freedom” of the android and side loading is that it also requires a much higher degree of knowledge, decision making, and active self protection by the users - that inherently means more security/malware/support issues.
If you want or need all that, you’re probably gonna fucking hate a lot of things about iOS across the entire experience anyway, so you go Android. If you have zero understanding or desire to add that level of responsibility to your digital life, then maybe you aren’t married to Android and the iPhone simplifies this for you.
I think it’s a dumb pointless move to force side loading on iOS.
TL;DR Some people want to drive stick shift, others want an automatic, others want all electric - this like saying all car models need to legally be made in all three versions or it can’t be made at all.
I agree. I think what most people don’t realize is that it’s very likely that the first adopters would be companies who can actually afford to do their own hosting, marketing, and distribution. No indie developer will decide to make their first app as an app store for the app they’re really trying to build.
Take Adobe, for example. They have 28 apps on the App Store right now. Assume I’m a person whose workflow relies critically on Adobe Acrobat Sign, and at the same time I’m the person who keeps getting told “then don’t sideload if you don’t want to.”
Adobe then decides to put all their apps on the Adobe App Store exclusively. Well, might as well throw that “Allow sideloading” toggle out the window because I don’t have a choice but to turn it on so I can continue to use Adobe Acrobat Sign, or leave it off and settle with a crappy experience in a browser or wherever.
But still, the keyword here is “exclusively”. If they make 3rd party app store apps equally available on the App Store, then we’re going to be okay, and I can leave my “Allow sideloading” toggle off.
For now.
How about just having lower fees on the app store and its in app purchases to not incentivize people to flee from it like it’s the plague? That’s what itch.io and Valve are doing and it sure seems to be working fine.
I’m honestly baffled by this community and it makes me feel like if the MS IE antitrust case happened today, most of this thread’s commenters would side with Microsoft or just be paid to say so.
Yes, that is the point, software switches are easily added whereas transmission systems less so. The EU is forcing more social and commercial innovation into Apple than the whole 3 past years’ worth of work from their own departmens.
yeah lower fees would also 100% be a simple solution here too. When it was innovative and the only legit app store on the market, site maybe it was easier to get away with, but nowadays that lead has closed so it’s pretty wild they still take 30%