• gigastasio@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    No you don’t understand! We were able to topple an oppressive regime and install an equally oppressive regime!

  • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    72·
    4 days ago

    You start from the mindset that government is here to serve the people they govern. This has, historically, generally not been the case.

  • spinnetrouble@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    4·
    4 days ago

    He and Pete got tired of playing with the same toys and want new ones now. Instead of cleaning up, replacing what they used up, and fixing what they broke, Two Pump Chump throws other people’s money at it and calls it a day. Same old song and dance.

  • j5y7@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    4 days ago

    What’s stopping them from using those billions to attack their enemies and keep the straight closed?

    • thefluffiest@feddit.nlEnglish
      7·
      4 days ago

      Nothing. That’s because, ya know, the US lost this war. And these are effectively the terms of surrender

  • InvalidName2@lemmy.zipEnglish
    44·
    4 days ago

    I have read a number of different sources on this, lots of contradicting information, which is to be expected because final details aren’t publicly available at this time. But from what is known or speculated, that $300 billion isn’t coming from tax payers.

    Now don’t get me wrong, tax payers and really much of the world is footing the bill in the form of higher energy costs, loss of lives, cost of military, etc. That part’s true.

    It’s just that “we” as in presumably to mean “US tax payers” aren’t giving Iran $300 billion to the best of my understanding.

    • Jhex@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      4 days ago

      of course it is tax payers money… what company is just going to pitch money to clean this mess without the chance of a 200 year lease on some oil field as a reward?

      where elese is the money coming from?

      • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        21·
        3 days ago

        The Arab Gulf States, at least in part. To them, this expense is just part of the cost of continuing to do business.

            • Jhex@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              3 days ago

              Well I guess “seeing is believing”, not a word can be trusted from the USA at the moment but they are inept enough that something will leak. The source of those funds is likely going to come to light sooner than later

      • running_ragged@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        4 days ago

        I don’t see how releasing frozen assets counts as any sort of reparations or rebuilding.

        If those claims are true, that will 100% be tax payer money.

        The administration and most of the media they have bought or bullied into submission will be doing everything in their power to keep the public confused about what money is is what, so they can keep saying ‘this is not your money’ and be misleading but technically correct about certain portions of it.

      • InvalidName2@lemmy.zipEnglish
        12·
        4 days ago

        The $300 billion is speculated to be entirely private investment based on the most credible sources I’ve seen.

        There’s also some large number ($100 billion???) of frozen Iranian assets that are to be released – it’s already their money just that they were cut off from it and it’s a separate pool of money from the $300 billion.

        As I said, some of this is speculation as of last I read about out (few hours ago), numbers and sources are subject to change, and these administrations are known for their lies, so don’t take my words or theirs as gospel.