You reckon the same for us?

  • reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca
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    25 days ago

    Why does everything have to be left or right? Other than making for snappier headlines and fanning the flames of divisive politics, it’s not helpful.

    The headline should read something like: “ Stressed out and future depressed newer generations opting out of building families in world with worsening cost of living crisis “.

    I’d wager heavily that it has nothing to do with political views and everything to do with the actual current state of things.

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      25 days ago

      It doesn’t have to be, but doesn’t it make sense?

      People who are in tune with the real world and what’s going on are reluctant to send new kids into an uncertain future.

      People who have been tricked into whatever the GOP/Pedos are pushing are more optimistic/tricked and are having more kids.

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        25 days ago

        The left/right distinction doesn’t apply to people who are basically apolitical. A lot of people are like that. I’m not passing judgement, but it’s a fact.

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            25 days ago

            My comment is based on life experience. I’ve known a lot of people who don’t think about politics at all. I’m not sure why that deserves a down vote. I read about politics every day and I’m firmly left wing. But I’m not representative of the majority. Most people on here aren’t. We’re here because we make an effort to get engage and seek views on another platform.

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              25 days ago

              I’m not sure why that deserves a down vote

              This is a left wing echo chamber, so assume most Lemmy users are like this:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJevL0a8XZU

              We’re here because we make an effort to get engage and seek views on another platform

              All the reasonable people left and went back to reddit, Lemmy is near exclusively controlled and run by far left wing progressives

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                25 days ago

                Maybe so. I hope we can do better though. Otherwise I see more right wing bullshit in our future and it’s fucking depressing.

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                  25 days ago

                  Sadly the deeper you go into the fediverse the worse it gets, if you disagree at all with Lemmy on any of the mainstream topics in any way, AI, tech, the future, climate change, feminism, renewables, nuclear etc you’ll wake up with 50 notifications as you get absolutely piled on

                  But at the same time downvotes mean nothing so who cares

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                25 days ago

                I suppose that raises the question of why we should engage on this platform at all. A bit of compulsion maybe. I’m probably just gonna delete my account since I think this is all a bit silly. I’m mostly just arguing with myself now. I don’t think I’ve had any really productive conversations on here.

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      25 days ago

      I’d wager heavily that it has nothing to do with political views and everything to do with the actual current state of things.

      🫠 did you read the article even a little bit?

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        25 days ago

        Just because they correlate political beliefs with the desire not to have kids means nothing. Correlation != Causation.

        Have you ever watched the movie Idiocracy? That is more credible than this particular article in my opinion.

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          25 days ago

          You can dismiss the article easily however does it not make more sense that a culture focused on family would have a larger amount of children than one that doesn’t prioritise family at all and instead on education and individual achievement ?

          Have you ever watched the movie Idiocracy? That is more credible than this particular article in my opinion.

          What about this one?

          https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religion-fertility-and-child-rearing/pr_2025-02-26_religious-landscape-study_06-03/

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            25 days ago

            More correlation, not causation.

            Irish monks who are afraid of spiders have been known also believe in fairies. So spiders are causing them to believe in fairies!!!

            None of this has anything to do with beliefs, race, sexual orientation, alien lizard people, moon cycles, ocean currents or tarot card readings.

            Smart people have the foresight to see that the world isn’t getting to be a better place. In fact, it is scientifically proven to be getting worse. Scientists have been warning us about it since as early as the 1920s.

            Couple that with people educated enough to read actual peer reviewed studies and you have a massive influx of factually educated young people that don’t want to bring new life into a society that seems hell bent on self elimination.

            Which is precisely the plot of the movie Idiocracy. But much funnier.

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              25 days ago

              You’re looking at the wrong end, you’re telling me why people aren’t having kids, the studies and polls are looking at who IS having kids

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                25 days ago

                You must be looking at a different article. The title even says it, very boldly. Left = decline. Can’t get much more click bait polarized than that.

                Look at the quoted wording used:

                • likely
                • Indications
                • May contribute

                This is an over dramatization of a coincidental blip found in looking at statistical data. A very far cry from anything remotely factual or definitive.

                Just fairy talk that someone decided to try and use as a political tool.

                Critical thinking isn’t involved past the study itself.