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What the title says. I don’t know if the Apple TV is sincerely better than the Ultra, but since I’ve built up what I’d consider a fairly standard home theater system (4K tv with HDR, soundbar w/ Dolby Atmos…no surround system or anything overly fancy) the Roku has caused some annoyances. Right now the hassle is the Paramount Roku app keeps blanking the screen when watching Dolby Vision content, sometimes requiring a tv power cycle.
Anyways, I know I’m asking the Apple crowd here but I’m considering the switch but don’t know if it’s a difference of preferences or if Apple TV (4K) is genuinely superior?
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Apple TV is amazing and I used to use Roku.
You will still have the blanking issue with Apple TV, but the picture and sound quality are both better than Roku Ultra.
That’s disappointing. What causes this issue? Bad cables? Poor app development? I kinda irrationally hate it
The blanking is momentary for a second or so when you switch from SDR to HDR content. From then on it should be stable. Is that what you are experiencing on the Roku? You mention rebooting so seem to be describing something more serious.
Here are the issue cases: paramount plus is the biggest offender, but YouTube and Max does it too. Screen blanks when I browse between videos, regardless of if it’s Dolby content or not (Paw patrol show, blaze, pp movie which is Dolby…). The screen does blank briefly when starting a video, and I get that that’s normal. Where it’s a problem is sometimes the blank doesn’t correct (screen doesn’t come back) and I have to power cycle the app, or the Roku itself to get the screen to come back at all. I assumed it was either the Roku, or poorly developed app for the Roku (and I’m hoping that if I went Apple, I’d not get these issues).
You are correct, with Apple TV you won’t experience those issues or have to power cycle, but will still go blank for a second when starting Dolby vision/hdr content
I force mine to always out put 4k hdr 29.97 to my projector and never experience blanking. Match content and frame rate off. I use an Epson 5040ub and it limited 4k hdr due to its chipset
Something about the handshake between the TV and device. Doesn’t seem to be a great fix available.
You could set the Apple TV to always run in Dolby Vision and turn Match Content off. I do this and don’t notice any issues. But I’m sure some videophiles would cringe at this.
I have both and prefer the Apple TV but I can see where other prefer using a Roku. Hardware wise the Apple TV is vastly superior to the Roku Ultra. The Apple TV has faster SOC, more ram, more storage, better WiFi and better Ethernet. If you are not doing anything that takes advantage of the better hardware then you won’t notice a difference.
What TV and soundbar do you have? The Apple TV does not support Atmos over an ARC connection so if you have a TV with ARC and a soundbar with one HDMI you may not get Atmos.
probably just a personal experience but after having APTV for years i just cant stand anything else… all the other systems seems so cheap and broken and slow compared to the ATPV
i have a 4K oled tv (LG C1), sonos soundbar and sub, and everything just works togethre flawlesly
Apple TV is in a whole other class. My old Roku Ultra feels like junk in comparison.
I’m an AV tech, dozens of rokus and apple Tvs installed, apple is better I’m my experience
The Apple tv fits into the Apple ecosystem. Watching a movie and your doorbell sees someone at the front door, you can have the Apple tv throw up a picture in a picture when it does. Get a FaceTime call? You can take it in your tv. Have a Facebook video on your phone? Flick it up to the tv.
Beyond that, the Apple tv has the superior processor so everything is always butter smooth and flawless. There are no ads, and Apple isn’t selling your data to anyone.
What doorbell supports this? I have a Ring.
I ring my ring cameras through homebridge to make them work with HomeKit. No problem viewing all my cameras on Apple TV
I have a Eufy camera I put on my porch just before the pandemic (so definitely not the latest model), and it does this - get a notification on the Apple TV, with an image in the upper right corner, when someone steps onto the front porch. If I tap the home button on the Apple TV remote while the notification is there, it’ll pause any video and pull the camera feed up full screen.
The camera is also set so it is not uploading anything to Eufy (no monthly charge and no serving as someone else’s remote camera, the way Ring has done occasionally from what I’ve heard) and uses Apple’s HomeKit Secure Video, through the AppleTV (I trust Apple more because security and privacy is one of their selling points - if they got caught doing anything funny with the video, their bottom line would take a massive hit). With that, I can use the Home app on my iPhone to have a live feed of the front porch from anywhere, if I want.
(The irony - got the camera so I could see packages and such on my porch during the day, and then like a month later switched to working from home.)
ring is amazon so it’s alexa. But going to amazon and searching for homekit doorbell (or camera) will bring up several homekit compatible devices.
Alternatively, for things like uniquiti cameras, you can setup a homebridge server that will bring non homekit video feeds into homekit.
As someone who also came from Roku, let me put it this way: Going from Roku to Apple TV is like going from a $500 beater car to a $100k sports car. It’s higher quality, nicer materials, better user experience, and just faster.
Beyond there being no ads, the UI is very fluid. I often use my Apple TV with my iPhone as the remote, which creates this unique feeling of control over your experience. I feel as though most of the apps on AppleTV are better designed than the Roku versions, and are more likely to get new features first.
If you have the budget, and are already integrated in the Apple ecosystem, this is 100% a solid purchase. I have one, and plan on getting another one for the bedroom (once I upgrade my TV, lol)
Side question: for the iPhone as a remote thing…can multiple users do that? Like can my wife use her iPhone as a remote while I’m at work or is it tied to whoever’s Apple ID the Apple TV is registered with?
Anyone with an iPhone that is connected to your WiFi network can use their phones as a remote. To setup, just open the remote app on your phone and select the name of your Apple TV. A 4-digit code will appear on your TV that you’ll need to enter on your phone. After that you’ll never need to do that again.
I like the Apple TV as well. I would love to have a hybrid Apple TV with Roku-like remote!
Make the leap to Apple TV. It’ll be worth it with your set up
I gave up on the Roku platform after I had to throw away my third, otherwise functional, Roku device because they decided to obsolete them. I don’t know how long I’ve had my oldest Apple TV, but it still works as good as new and it still gets updates.
I used Roku devices up until about 7 years ago, and then I switched to Apple TV. The Rokus were fine at first, but I ended up having all kinds of problems with them. I don’t recall now what those problems were since it was so long ago, but I did have the Roku Ultra. I think it was the first model Roku Ultra they came out with at the time. Haven’t had any problems with Apple TV.
Do you have any other apple devices? If so hands down Apple TV. If you are android and windows stick with Roku.
Only ever had apple TVs but like some have already said, yeah, ATV is overpowered for streaming. No lag or stutters. I have used it on Wifi for ages and now on ethernet. No real issues, except for my actual wifi sometimes.
I’d recommend it if you want something hassle free.
My other family members show up on my device. But I’m the only one that uses them. I own 4 of them.