• TimathanDuncan@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    No it doesn’t

    It happens with young players too

    Rashfor goes from shit to world class regularly, AWB went from shit to essential to shit

    Many other United players and other team players as well, why? Because fans have the memory of a gold fish and when team does bad they do this

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      1 year ago

      Rashford and AWB examples are fluctuations in form, an inherent lack of consistency, and/or fit with the manager’s tactics and what the squad needs. This is different than an age-related decline in quality when a player hits a point where their experience and knowledge of the game is no longer able to make up for the loss of athleticism.

      Outside of significant injuries, it’s rare that a good player hits their peak in their early-mid 20s and can never get back to that. A lot will reach their potential and stop developing but they don’t go backwards. That’s why it’s so surprising and attracts attention when it does happen, e.g. Dele.

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        1 year ago

        Players in their mid 20s peak and fall off all the time we have thousands of examples, some players are just not that good and peak fall off season after season

        Not every player in their mid 20s is consistent

        • Azrou@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Sure, you can find some, but thousands of examples? I think it’s far more often the case that the players that look to have gotten worse really aren’t, they are just being expected to play at a level beyond their abilities so they look bad. For example a player having a great season in the Championship, getting sold to a PL team and doing poorly most likely isn’t receding from their peak, they were never a PL level player to begin with.

          • TimathanDuncan@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Yes thousands of examples

            Players have one off seasons all the time in every league idk how people watch football but say this

            Just in PL u have so many one season wonders let alone other leagues that you have never seen

            Idk if i know this but it’s very hard to be consistent and great at a very high level

            • Azrou@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              A one off season is not their actual level, it’s just being in great form…

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                1 year ago

                It’s not just one off season, it’s overall consistency that is so hard to achieve at high levels not just in football in every sport

      • TimathanDuncan@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        See another stupid comment with goldfish memory and just zero evidence

        Rashford never gives a fuck, he sulked and didn’t jump for headers last season any time i watched but he scored goals so your goldfish memory forgets that

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          1 year ago

          He was much better last season - at times, the only other player with Bruno who was a consistent threat. This season, not so much.

          Right, you complain about zero evidence and proceed to give zero evidence yourself. Come on.

    • Blue_winged_yoshi@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Rashford’s a budget player who turns it on for 7 months when a contract is on the line. Xhaka grew as a player when his role was adapted to provide him better cover to make up for his lack of pace and somewhat questionable defensive instincts. Casemiro has just gotten old after being consistent forever.

      Younger players who function better in one system or another or others who turn it on at pinch points in their career are not the same as older player going over the hill.

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      1 year ago

      What do you mean about AWB? He went from shit to essential and then has been injured, he’s only just back