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Chelsea and Everton the “most improved” while both having a generally awful start to the season is a fun indication of how useful xG is.
I think this should be viewed at the end of the season.
Because every time I’ve watched either Everton or Chelsea they’ve looked much better than they did last season, and typically performances come before results.
But if you were to ask me the two most improved clubs in terms of performance this season I would say Chelsea and Everton, closely followed by us.
I’ve always been so apprehensive at how quickly the public adopted it as the end-all-be-all stat. It’s flawed and subjective (the fact different sites have different models). It’s similar to how basketball fans use the TS% to settle debates nowadays.
Chelsea finished 12th last season and are 10th now
Everton finished 17th last season and are 14th now without the deducted points
The teams have both improved
Chelsea and Everton the “most improved” while both having a generally awful start to the season is a fun indication of how useful xG is.
Except Everton have been pretty good and are easily the most underrated team in the leauge. I’d argue they were pretty unlucky and were shit aginst Luton which apparently is the only relevant game of the season for judging them on. If anything, their quality on the pitch compared with their xG is a lot more similar than when compared to how many points they’ve gained.
xG is worthless for you because you couldn’t finish of a virgin who’d been edging for 8 hours.
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I dont know if many would have predicted Brentford having much higher xg after losing Toney to the ban. Pretty impressive.
Poor old Everton! All that improvement going to waste. Obviously it should see them avoid the cut easily enough so that points punishment is a complete waste of time.
It’s definitely fucked us massively, but if we survive then I wouldn’t say the improvement was entirely a waste, because if we continued playing like we did last season and got a 10 point deduction, we were definitely going down even with the weaker relegation opponents
A ten point deduction would have relegated Wolves last year and they finished 13th. Chelsea (12th) would have survived on tie breakers. The relegation battle was a lot tighter last year than it SHOULD be this year-it obviously is relevant that there’s a lot of season left to be played and if any of the newly promoted sides get a good run of form and we have fitness issues, then it will get dicey for us.
Aye, if we get lucky with injuries and/or get coverage in January, despite I imagine being strapped for cash, and we can maintain our PPG we’ll probably be safe. That’d end us on 34 points which might well be enough. And that’s including all the games at the start of the season we lost without half our first team.
Everton and Chelsea with the best development, Manchester United with the worst
One of the main aspects of a good graph is that the audience should be able to easily understand the data within 30 seconds. This graph is not such a graph.
If it takes you more than 30 seconds to read the title, axes and look at the lines then idk what to tell you.
Could it be simpler? Sure. Is it so confusing that it should take someone who has heard about xG longer than a minute to understand? i dont think so.
Really?
The badges are large enough to be legible without being so large their crowd each other too much.
The line is obviously connecting 2 points, one being the badge, and the change in width tells you immediately that’s it’s a progression from the thin point to the thick one. They’re also coloured well so you can immediately tell who is who.
There are lines on the background to help group without even using the axes.
You can also tell because the newly promoted sides are just the badge, so the badge has to represent this year.
Also, it says it at the top of the graph.
There is even a graphic at the top explaining this.
Such a cool way of visually putting things
United haven’t moved in either axis.
Consistency 👍
Interesting to note we’re producing less xG in attack and conceding less xG in defence, despite the general sense that Ange is less pragmatic and more daring than Conte. The eye test, and my own observation, seem to directly disagree with the underlying stats.
You’re reading it wrong. The graphic is showing increases in both
Spurs are exceeding their xG by quite a bit. But you’re also reading this wrong.
How am I reading it wrong? which direction is the line moving?
Really annoying they put fake axis lines in the middle of the graph
I’ve decided that they’re likely the averages and therefore not fake axis lines. Still probably should’ve been labeled but it’s also probably more obvious to someone who isn’t suffering from insomnia
Arsenal really became defend and corners FC lol
More balls but less penetration
Severely low xG conceded doesn’t mean “defend” more of the game, on the contrary it means you have a better control of the game. You are essentially allowing fewer opportunities for the opposition to have a glimpse of your side of the pitch. Teams that defend more, often concede a big xG, and if they have good defenders then their xG per shot would be lower. But yeah, pure low xG is all about controlling the game and the ball.
It’s a joke mate, it’s obvious we don’t park the bus 😅
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Fair play to Everton, knew they would perform better in Dyches first full season. Just a shame about the points deduction but they will sill stay up imo.
We are way more controlled this year for sure. Having some injuries/ walking wounded hasn’t helped us.
Sean Dyche improving Everton in both directions, impressive stuff.
The most surprising thing upon his introduction last season, even though results didn’t go brilliantly, was that our xG shot up massively in the second half of the season. xG conceded also went up a bit I think though. So even more impressive that after he improved xG a lot in the second half of the season, this season is a massive improvement again.
Is it even an unpopular opinion to think he keeps them up even with -10 points? They look significantly better than the 3 teams closest to them.
No I think general consensus is we’re 4th most likely to go down still with a bit of a gap between us and the 3 promoted sides. The bookies have us 2/1 to go down and those 3 all odds on. But you never know, if we pick up some injuries and any one of them hit a bit of form doubts could creep back in.
Dyche is good, probably the best active English manager.
That some people cant read such a simple graph scares me. It even shows above the graph which part of the club tadpoles that is last season and which part is this one
aren’t x and y-axis misnamed?
Problem solving and critical thinking aren’t as common as they should be
Source: this article
Can’t read it because paywall but do they say why they excluded penalties? I understand it for players but surely for teams conceding/earning a penalty would be relevant to the overall point of this graphic.