• Knorff@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    The English line-up was decided by a FA committee. Every player was nominated for a certain position and had to play this position.

    The Hungarian line-up was decided by their coach. Especially their forwards didn´t care about positions.

    You can see why Hungary won and England was very confused the whole game.

    Extra info: The statistic was around 35:5 shots on goal for Hungary.

  • hafrances@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    When I was in Budapest for the EL final I saw a huge mural of this result painted on some random residential building

    • I_miss_Chris_Hughton@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Made me feel bad for Gil Merrick, who is slathered on there Even though as far as I can tell he was sort of left out to dry by a bad formation

    • belokas@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Because that was the first time England lost a game at home. The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

      • Such_Technician_501@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Actually Ireland was the first team to beat England at home. September 1949. 2-0 at Goodison Park.

        Doesn’t quite fit the narrative that they could only be beaten by the exotic Mighty Magyars though.

        • whitsitcalled@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Scotland first beat England in 1877 and were the first team to beat them at Wembley. Wales and Ireland (original Ireland football team for the entire island) both beat England multiple times in England before 1953 but Hungary were the first continental European team to beat England in England which is why it’s so well known.

      • bb9622@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        that was the first time England lost a game at home.

        It wasn’t. It was the first home game they lost to a team from the European continent though.

      • WalkingCloud@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        The second time it happened they already knew England was bad and Hungary was very good.

        I know what you mean, but genuinely that England team weren’t ‘bad’, Hungary were that good.

    • just_szabi@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      My grandfather was very proud of that result too. Not sure if this is true, but apparently the English training camp was in Balatonboglár, near where he lived at the time, and they were training here for a week (according to him anyway).

      He kept saying a funny line in Hungarian which could be translated like this:

      “Az angolok egy hétre jöttek, és 7:1re mentek”.

      The english came for one week (1:7), and went back with 7:1 :)

      One week sounds like “one seven” because seven and (a) week is the same word (hét) in Hungarian.

  • CeterumCenseo85@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’ve only ever known Italy vs Germany in the 1970 WC referred to as “The Game of the Century.” The stadium in Mexico even has a sign commemorating as such.

    • aguilaclc@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Estadio Azteca. Hosted the best team (1970 Brazil), the best match (ITA v GER 1970) and the best goal (Maradona v England)

  • levenspiel_s@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    According to Jonathan Wilson in his book “inverting the pyramid”, this game was a massive turning point in the understanding of formations. I don’t remember exact quotes but the English players were so confused by Nándor Hidegkúti’s false 9 role that they just helplessly watched unending Hungarian attacks and conceding lots of goals.

  • Thelostsoulinkorea@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Something something Puskas and that Hungary team being really good. They would have won the final if Puskas wasn’t kicked off the field every game and there was normal refereeing in those days.

    • ajnem@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      To add on to the previous comments, 11-es is shorthand for “tizenegyes” (tizenegy means eleven). The suffix -ből means “from” in Hungarian.

    • AlhamdolilahFE@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Just looked it up and saw that Ramsey scored a penalty kick. 11-esbol would mean 11 meters and thus a penalty I think lol

    • KnightsOfCidona@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Always forget Alf Ramsey was a player, in my head he’s always a middle aged bald man with a posh accent.

  • Wide_Thought7589@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Fun fact.

    The captain of the England team that lost 6-3 and 7-1 to Hungary was Billy Wright.

    Billy Wright has a statue in front of Molineux Stadium in Wolverhampton.

    The same Molineux where Hungary beat England 4-0 in the Nations League last year.

    Maybe Billy Wright is just cursed?

  • Quanqiuhua@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Why were England considered good by this time? They already had crashed out in the first round in Brazil losing two matches including against an amateur side.

  • JacquouileFripouile@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    My great grandpa used to tell me about Hungarian Laka Konjica when I was a wee lad. He told me that there was no football fan who didn’t love them

  • just_some_guy65@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Was this to do with the Hungarians not using the only formation (the oddly named traditional 5-3-2) that the England players understood so they were stuck rigidly marking thin air?

  • I_miss_Chris_Hughton@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Always felt bad for Gil Merrick. Very good goalkeeper by all accounts, one of the Birmingham City all time great players and managers, servant of the club for decades. Is known around the world for conceding 11 to Hungary when it probably wasn’t his fault.