• Cowbee@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    The population is, as society develops and becomes increasingly social and interconnected, we are forced to become more aware simply through sheer osmosis.

    I believe centrism is typically a shield for conservatives because I’ve seen it used that way many times. A good example is when “centrists” were against BLM and supported ALM, they claimed they were centrists in order to shield themselves from even worse backlash.

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      11 months ago

      The population is, as society develops and becomes increasingly social and interconnected, we are forced to become more aware simply through sheer osmosis.

      I’m sure this is something you’re assuming to be true, but again it doesn’t work like this. I mean, sure, individual people get older at the rate of one year of age per year. But the age of the population doesn’t necessarily increase or decrease, unless there’s an imbalance in the rate of deaths and the rate of births.

      A good example is when “centrists” were against BLM and supported ALM, they claimed they were centrists in order to shield themselves from even worse backlash.

      This an example of exactly what I’m talking about, though. You’re talking about a person that has liberal-coded views on some issues and conservative-coded views on others (BLM/social unrest.)

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        11 months ago

        I’m not talking about age, but exposure. People’s exposure is increasing over time, not just the age of individuals. That’s why radicalization is at an all time high.

        My point is that the conservative is feigning that they have liberal views as a way to justify conservative views, this is a common occurrence. ALM is a far-right position, BLM was the moderate one.

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          11 months ago

          People’s exposure is increasing over time

          Individually, sure, but not in aggregate. That’s my point. You’re ignoring how there are always new people who have not yet become politically informed.

          My point is that the conservative is feigning that they have liberal views as a way to justify conservative views, this is a common occurrence.

          Right, but what I’m asking you is why you think that’s a “common occurrence” when you’ve neither observed it nor had it reported to you by conservatives.

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            11 months ago

            Yes in aggregate, that’s my point. You’re arguing against the increasing saturation of social media, that simply doesn’t exist. You’re arguing against historical trends in radicalization despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

            I have observed it, and of course conservatives aren’t going to admit to shielding themselves with it openly, that defeats the purpose. If someone holds largely conservative views, but pretends to be moderate to avoid backlash, they are conservative.

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              11 months ago

              Yes in aggregate, that’s my point.

              Yes, but you’re wrong. In aggregate political sophistication isn’t increasing. That’s my point.

              You’re arguing against historical trends in radicalization despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

              There are no “mountains of evidence to the contrary.”

              I have observed it, and of course conservatives aren’t going to admit to shielding themselves with it openly

              “Everybody who disagrees with me is lying” is a view that’s not particularly sophisticated.

              If someone holds largely conservative views, but pretends to be moderate to avoid backlash, they are conservative.

              Right, but who is even one person who is doing this?