Minister says Sweden has ‘fulfilled its commitments’ amid criticism of ‘unjust’ deportation decisions such as case of Joyce Thomas

Minister says Sweden has ‘fulfilled its commitments’ amid criticism of ‘unjust’ deportation decisions such as case of Joyce Thomas

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  • distal@lemmy.mlEnglish
    72·
    2 days ago

    It’s easy to say that these UK nationals should have just followed the rules. I think it’s a tragedy either way. Sweden cracks down on immigrants with a heavy hand to satisfy those who imagine themselves endangered by outsiders.

    Immigrants are a very well behaved group as long as they aren’t excluded from participating in social life. Immigrants don’t come to a country to do worse, they come to a country to do make use of the opportunity to do better. The Swedish crackdown on immigration is purely nationalistic in nature and a sign of hard times ahead for the entire world.

    I would understand the snark about privileged immigrants such as those from the UK and the shitshow that was Brexit if it didn’t also affirm the logic of immigration crackdowns in general. These people are losing livelihoods, friends and family. That is tough no matter where you are from. Cheering it on with no sense of pity means that you are gleefully cheering on workers getting stomped on.

  • rmuk@feddit.ukEnglish
    31·
    3 days ago

    As someone in another thread pointed out, the Swedish government website has a section explaining - in English - exactly what a British citizen needs to do to remain in Sweden and it explains the routes to permanent residency and Swedish citizenship. The rules for remaining were made clear and these dumb fucks ignored them. No sympathy.

    And complaining that the Swedes have followed the rules exactly as published is like complaining that they wear thick jumpers, make efficient furniture and drink coffee - it’s a stereotype that is also somewhat accurate and part of who they are. If these migrants want to make a foreign country their home they need to integrate themselves into that country’s culture and respect that country’s social norms.

  • farmgineer@nord.pubEnglish
    29·
    3 days ago

    The one guy says he didn’t know an application was needed to stay post-brexit. How does that happen? Maybe because I am a chronic worrier, I would be checking on shit every day until I was sure it was sorted.

    • Pungent Llama@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      3 days ago

      If you are living in a country where you are not a citizen, then yes, you need to keep up with the rules related to your stay.

    • mjr@infosec.pubEnglish
      524·
      3 days ago

      And the EU complicity in stripping 17m British Europeans of the citizenship that they voted to keep should be more of a scandal than it is. Are people really OK with abandoning millions of Europeans if too many of their compatriots believe Russian- funded social media ads and politicians?

      • B0rax@feddit.orgEnglish
        10·
        2 days ago

        This isn’t the doing of the EU. It is Britain who has stripped them from the European citizenship.

        • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          The EU could have fought for mind share like they did in other counrries.

      • chramies@europe.pubEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        There isn’t enough anger in Britain either from what I can see about people being disenfranchised on the basis of a minority vote (37% of the voting population). Maybe in Scotland there is, but here in southern England it seems nobody is flying the European flag whether literally or metaphorically.

      • schnokobaer@feddit.orgEnglish
        181·
        3 days ago

        Yes.

        You can’t make different laws depending on what people voted for. That’s how democracies work, everyone has to deal with what the majority voted for.

  • bstix@feddit.dkEnglish
    12·
    3 days ago

    There was an open window to get this sorted.

    Sweden is very bureaucratic and relying heavily on their domestic identification systems which are notoriously impossible to navigate for foreigners. However it is of absolute necessity to get this part sorted out in order to make any kind of communication with the government in Sweden, so it boggles my mind if anyone didn’t have access to the application long beforehand, if they’ve been living in Sweden for longer than a few months at most. Age is no excuse. You simply cannot exist in Sweden without it.

    The proces was then to apply for permanent residence using the offered agreement between UK and EU, by logging in, filling out the form and attaching the requested documents as proof of residence, and also the required biometric registration.

    Sure, it wasn’t easy, but it is going to be even more difficult afterwards. Anyone who is entering Sweden (from outside EU) after this, will have to apply to the ordinary migration system which includes a test in both language and history of Sweden.

    • huppakee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      3 days ago

      There was a period after the referendum in which brexit was not yet realised, then there was a period in which it was unclear what the new situation would be, then there was a period where people could apply for citizenship, then there was a period where these people weren’t punished for not following the (new) law. So that’s why the first cases come about all these years later.