LOCKED: people are getting too heated over a silly meme

go to s/parenting if you want to have a serious conversation about parenting

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Than grandpa can just do it instead of playing this barely disguised manipulative bullshit.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        It is good and normal for children to do reasonable chores, or else they grow up into useless adults who think emptying the dishwasher is tantamount to slavery.

        • SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          for real. The number of entitled little shits in this whole thread is proof that we’re doomed.

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          2 months ago

          It doesn’t really work like that. If you force people from childhood to do the chore, you increase the chance they resent it later in life so much, they stop doing it altogether the second they can.
          The way you teach people to do something is positive reinforcement and positive associations. It’s very basic thing that most people ignore because it’s harder to do than yell at kids and force them with the threat of punishment. That’s because people who got yelled and forced as kids grow up into useless adults.

          • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            people who got yelled and forced as kids grow up into useless adults.

            I got yelled at and forced as a kid, and much worse, and I grew up to be probably the single most useful adult I know. I didn’t resent cooking because I was forced to cook, I don’t resent taking out the trash because I was forced to, or washing the dishes, or yardwork, or laundry.

            These are things that need to get done, and without someone to do them for me I need to do them. If you incentivize learning those habits with praise and an ice cream cone, you just teach the child that if they don’t feel like ice cream they don’t have to do anything.

            Seems to me that you’re wildly exaggerating a fairly normal situation, and making unfounded generalizations about parenting and child psychology. Yes positive reinforcement is generally good, and no I wouldn’t recommend my draconian upbringing, but the world is not black and white. There is a time for positive reinforcement, and a time for negative reinforcement.

    • Sarah Valentine@pawb.social
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      2 months ago

      Nobody said it wasn’t. Maybe you should have been taught critical thinking skills instead of how to defend bad parenting.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        You did, in the comment I responded to.

        People who have kids just to use them for cheap labor shouldn’t have had kids to begin with. Mr. “no such thing as an ex marine” is just passing off abuse as discipline, like what was done to him.

        You’re calling this situation “abuse”, which is outrageously out of touch with reality.