I have not had a mobile phone since the Snowden confirmation.
GrapheneOS is the first thing to give me serious consideration of getting one [despite the remaining issues].
Preinstalled devices, increases chance of a snap purchase.
No? GOS said they’ll support them not that it’ll came preinstalled, ehy would Motorola go through the hassle of installing it?
For now, only Motorola flagships will be sold in 2027 with GrapeheneOS.
and not just any flagship – it’s ultra high priced folding one.
lol, my god, at this point I rather take the fairphone with PMOS, or the pixel with GOS, regardless both are non existent in my local market so I am stuck using Lineage on a old Motorola phone (I did check for PMOS support, and even got it booting but couldn’t get the screen to work)
Nah, it’s a slab phone.
i’m glad and surprised to learn this since the articles suggested it was a folding phone.
do have the article that says so handy for sharing?
It’s the Signature 27 I believe. Still expensive, just not a foldable.
Are we sure that’s it? I thought we weren’t getting a GOS-compatible phone until next year, but the 27 is apparently expected to launch in November.
Fairly certain, haven’t seen full confirmation yet but the chipset supports it, along with GOS’ confirmation that it isn’t a foldable a while back. Unless Motorola has an entirely new SKU for GOS this seems like it.
some part of me wishes you hadn’t shared this. lol
i’m too clumsy & absent-minded w phones to ever reasonably expect my phones to last beyond 1.5 years and paying $1k+ makes it hard to justify.
and i also hate google too much to ever buy a pixel – new or used – so that’s a complete non-starter.
i’ll probably end up going with lineage instead of graphene because of it.
Gotta do what you gotta do!
this. Also, safety concerns. Global south. Robberies and larcenies. I can’t just have a $800 brick on me all the time. I can barely replace the $150 one when it gets stolen or breaks. Unfortunately I am forced to participate in this smartphone system, and I remember when the most expensive phone was $300. 🤡
I remember when the most expensive phone was $300.
that was the last time i bought one that costed more than $150. lol
If you need security I would recommend that you overcome your predispositions and either get an affordable phone that is supported by graphene (a pixel) or an iphone.
If you do not need security then no worries, but it would be a shame to end up in a bad situation because you felt it was a bridge too far to use a phone from a particular company.
i don’t mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google – both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.
the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i’m hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it’s unclear about bigger ones.
i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they’re both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i’ve been using thus far and it’s also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i’ve had with used phones.
uh what
i used to be with it but then they changed what it was now what I’m with isn’t it anymore and what’s it seems weird and scary to me
did it get worse somehow?
I originally meant to post to GrapheneOS community, but it only allows mods to post, and then I forgot to add GrapheneOS in the title 🤣
It won’t happen to me

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Clearly you left your onion at home.
How would they guarantee the device hasn’t been tampered with? Sure you could use Auditor, but still…
you probably can just reflash GOS on it manually, but for hardware or firmware backdoors/tampering, you are out of luck for any device really
If it’s not preinstalled, I’m not buying it because there is a risk of injecting a virus along with its installation
Why would you download the Graphene image from a place that might have viruses, instead of the official site?
During that time you will have stock Android on your phone, which is Google, such an evil company. You can’t be sure that you won’t get any virus
Malware isn’t the same as viruses. Anyway, just don’t log in to anything on it until you can wipe and install Graphene. That will fix the issue.
Still, I wouldn’t trust it
Its OK Clark. We’re here for you!
That’s been a thing for years
It hasn’t been a thing direct from phone manufacturers. It’s just been people flashing phones and reselling them.
What’s the difference to the consumer?
One obvious difference is that there will be official support for GrapheneOS from a hardware vendor. It also means a lot more people are likely to get these phones because most people aren’t going to buy a refurbished one just to get GrapheneOS. So, it moves it closer to the mainstream, and that would make it harder for Google to cut off store access as well.












