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negativenull@piefed.world to HistoryArtifacts@piefed.socialEnglish · 20 days ago

Cat-Shaped Vessel from Peru, c.200-700

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Cat-Shaped Vessel from Peru, c.200-700

negativenull@piefed.world to HistoryArtifacts@piefed.socialEnglish · 20 days ago
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https://search.smb.museum/object/obj-4826

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  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I fucking love this. It’s so cute but also so menacing with its teeth and red eyes. I wonder what animal it represents. Puma? Some small wild cat? If it was a jaguar I feel like the spots would have survived if it ever had any. Why does it have a bird on its head? Is it related to mythology and folktales or pure whimsy? They must have had people making whimsical nonsense back then, too.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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      It’s the Cheshire Cat, obviously.

      • CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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        This is the third recent post that reminds me of famous characters. I’m convinced artists are stealing ancient art for inspiration.

        There was some caveman painting on the cave’s wall thinking “all art is derivative. How can Grog create, when nothing new under sun.”

        • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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          A lot of modern art is based on art from indigenous cultures. In fact all cultural development is taking what is already there, doing a little remix and maybe adding a few new aspects.

    • negativenull@piefed.worldOP
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      I was unable to find any details beyond the images I posted. I wish I knew more as well. I freakin’ love the fangs and the little tail wrapping around the back.

      • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I did a brief search of Artstor and the best I can do is ‘probably Moche or Wari/Huari culture’ since both have similar looking cat ceramics, with an open mouth and bared fangs. Based on the reported location Wari is probably the safer bet. I’ll see if I can dig up anything more later.

        • negativenull@piefed.worldOP
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          Paracas Culture is another option I found (though it several hundred years earlier):
          https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/313340

          https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?artist=Paracas+artist(s)

          • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Ooh, it does have a similar design. Maybe this was an old, widespread motif at the time? Because looking at the geographic range for Paracas culture it looks like it doesn’t overlap with the area it was found (hard to tell on the wiki maps). But people move around, it could be someone from the Paracas culture moved a little further inland and passed down that style of pottery.

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    19 days ago

    Hear me out:

  • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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    20 days ago

    Recuay culture! Other examples:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Recuay+culture+artifacts%2C+Peru&udm=2

    • negativenull@piefed.worldOP
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      That might be it!
      https://www.metmuseum.org/essays/the-art-of-the-recuay

      • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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        Thank you so much for posting this. I’ve been trying to maintain some of these “history” sub-pies since the founder retired, so it’s brilliant to see someone else contributing and helpful.

        As the Americans say: *fist bump*!

        • negativenull@piefed.worldOP
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          I used to post a fair amount here when Pug kept the community filled up, but after their departure, I slowed down. I should pick that back up, because it is such a neat topic.

          • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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            Nice.

            Me, I’ve turned on notifications for these, which are also the major three I try to keep afloat: (at least one post per week, anyway)

            !historyart@piefed.social
            !historyartifacts@piefed.social
            !historyphotos@piefed.social

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    19 days ago

    NSFW: They had some pretty wild stuff:

    spoiler

    https://www.precolumbianart4sale.com/type/Ceramic/work/89

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    The client needs a vessel that is largely practical but mostly to give his kids cat based nightmares.

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    Its well done but also goofy, I like it. Id love to be able to interview the artist and ask what vibe they were going for. Just normal artistic expression? Scary? Deliberately silly?

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    Did pre-Columbian Peruvians have cats? I didn’t think they had domesticated cats until after, so maybe it’s based on a wild cat?

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      Definitely based on a wild cat. There are lots of cats native to South America. Maybe an Andean Mountain Cat

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    20 days ago

    I would like two of these, tyvm. Please gift wrap one.

  • Bieren@lemmy.today
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    19 days ago

    Must have the same plastic surgeon as Dell.

  • ArcaneGadget@nord.pub
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    19 days ago

    That one is clearly not from Peru. It’s obviously from Cheshire…

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    Not a dog?

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