like would it have been better if we did that?
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We did. #Linux #LibreOffice #Thunderbird #DuckDuckGo #Nextcloud #Signal #Mastodon
Yes, of course.
Change is inevitable.
If you live in a capitalist society, everything will eventually become monetized.
Tech isn’t the problem; monetization is.
Monetization and commodification. Many things should be off limits to those cretins. Like healthcare and all types of insurance. (and food and shelter, but we’ve got to start with something, and healthcare is far more understandable to most)
Here’s something that gets overlooked.
A big part of Ronald Reagan’s ‘deregulation’ was letting third rate business people make lots of money. Toy companies could run half hour ads for products like Pokemon and Transformers. Federally insured S&Ls could make unlimited loans.
When you look at things being awful, it almost always comes back to Reagan.
The problem is not just monetization. Capitalism can function and provide reasonable prices, but that takes actual robust competition, and actual robust competition, requires lots of small players, not a few big monopolies.
So to OP’s point, yes, it would have been better to get off big tech earlier. Supporting small companies over big companies is always an inherent good in a capitalist society.
Capitalism provides none of that
Explain your point or shut the fuck up with this low effort nonsense.
It doesn’t even make grammatical sense given that I claimed capitalism can provide one thing (reasonable prices), and you responded with ‘none of that’ as if I listed a multitude of things.
Jesus Christ Lemmy is becoming as brain dead as Reddit.
Sweden is an example of an economy that has capitalistic elements with a strong safety net.
Robust competition and regulation, or you get flour with plaster in to make it cheaper and whiter again
Yes, you absolutely still need regulation because there are numerous ways of unnoticeably cutting corners.
Depends on who you mean by we; if you mean literally everyone then yes absolutely, but I highly doubt we’d be that coordinated or monolithic. If you mean the people like us on the fediverse who are currently trying to do it then I think starting earlier would only make a mild to modest increase in our number.
Yes. We already screwed it up when Internet Protocol took over and DNS was established. There were better methods. There are better methods.
That aside, we did have alternatives to big tech software for a long time:
- Linux
- Berkeley Software Distributions
- All GNU software
- LibreOffice
- Mozilla software, at least historically, and forks of it
- Etcetera
I’m curious as to what issues IP and DNS caused that were so glaring. I assume better methods were (and are) available for addressing and routing, but that seems more a discussion about network architecture design than the kinds of societal problems that “big tech” is generally considered responsible for (if I am interpreting OP’s question correctly, that is).
We should have stopped at MySpace.
Regular users were warned 10 years ago to drop all social media like Facebook but they have no incentive to do this. They are now using AI on top of that because they don’t care about privacy anymore.
Governments were too lazy to change, but they had/have to do it now because of Trump (mostly) and maybe a bit because of the war in Ukraine, and Russia, China, and North Korea hacking everything. That’s why they are now thinking of replacing Microsoft products like Office, creating European clouds, and relying more on European AI. But administrations are not known for being smart or fast in their decisions.
Yes but most people don’t give a fuck if companies collect and track everything about you just so they can get their menes.
Yes
Yes, or start raising the potential problems much sooner.
To any anti AI millennials I try to point out that there’s a direct line from google search (which millennials were crazy about in the day) to AI.
