• aberrate_junior_beatnik@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I think this is one of the things Trump got right: there should be a more adversarial relationship between politicians and the press. Of course Trump was adversarial because he wanted to do awful things, and also he wanted to set up a state media apparatus, but still.

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      10 months ago

      Well, Trump was adversarial to certain media outlets. Others, like FOX News, were All-But-State TV. They’d parrot whatever he said as the god given truth and he’d parrot whatever they said as truth. If Trump said that the election was stolen and COVID was no big deal, that’s how FOX reported it. If they said that vaccines were dangerous and that immigrants were replacing “real Americans” (read: white people), he’d parrot that right back.

      Also, adversarial relationships are good to a point. Biden is asking the media to cover things honestly. Trump was calling the media “The Enemy Of The People” and threatening to go after them (or encouraged his supporters to go after them) unless they fell in line. There’s a huge difference between those two adversarial relationships.

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      10 months ago

      Do we have to label calling people on their shit “adversarial”? To me that word has a connotation of reacting unreasonably.

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      10 months ago

      What the hell are you talking about? Trump did massive damage to journalistic integrity as a whole. You ever hear the words “fake news” before he used it?

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        10 months ago

        Trump did massive damage to journalistic integrity as a whole

        Not nearly as much damage as access journalism (e.g. Maggie Haberman style palace intrigue stories) did. The press and politicians being buddy-buddy is a disaster for journalistic integrity.

        You ever hear the words “fake news” before he used it?

        I did. The first time I heard it was on the PBS NewsHour, second half of 2016. Trump didn’t really start using the term until 2017/late 2016, IIRC. They were using the term to describe news sites that felt like “official” news sites but were not journalistic, using social media to spread and get ad revenue.

        To be clear, I’m not saying that Trump’s press strategy was good. Overall it was harmful; but the adversarial nature specifically was good.