• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      So I should just ignore the Death to Israel and “From the river to the Sea” means what, exactly?

      The issue at hand here is that Hamas absolutely wishes to genocide Israel. It’s literally the explicit purpose of Hamas.

      Israel feeling a bit touchy about that is natural. We need to hold Israel back from actually genociding the people here, but let’s not actually pretend that anything aside from Israel’s military is physically protecting them from this problem.

      So it’s full irony to claim Israel is genocide Gaza when it’s instead Hamas who is trying to genocide Israel.

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        11 months ago

        you can oppose the existence of a state without opposing the existence of the people ruled by that state.

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          11 months ago

          I know y’all Liberals hate ethno-states and all, but good luck setting up a liberal democracy in that region lol.

          Israel doesn’t particularly care for the Palestinians and that is definitely a problem. But letting the other regional powers (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Palestine, Syrians) take over would cause a complete slaughter of Israelis and Jewish people immediately. I guarantee it.

          Anyone who disagrees with me is hugely ignorant of the history of that region.

          What makes this whole situation so problematic is that Genocide is normal in that region. Kurds we’re probably going to be wiped out if it weren’t for our involvement in Iraq for example.

          Based on our best knowledge of the people who live there, Israel is likely the best leaders of that plot of land.

          Not Bibi though. Hopefully Israel can get a better minister. But they are the closest to democracy that we are gonna get there.

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              11 months ago

              And the Saudis are a monarchy. So methinks you don’t like that either.

              And presumably you don’t like Fascism either. So whatever, if you don’t got a realistic proposal then I guess you can go yell at clouds or something?


              No wait, Anarchist? So you think me acting in my best interests is best? So you think I should take up a job at a weapons manufacturer, then encourage this war to keep happening and then profit from it? And your political slant prevents you from doing anything to stop me from doing that?

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                  11 months ago

                  Guns, mostly.

                  What makes you think that the weapon manufacturers would sell anarchists useful weapons if you’re against them?

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                11 months ago

                So whatever, if you don’t got a realistic proposal then I guess you can go yell at clouds or something?

                i’m trying to organize against oppression, but, yea, it does feel like yelling at clouds most days.