before they were defederated by beehaw due to trolling issues, thenthedonlald showed up, and now exploding heads? what is happening right now?

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    One other late thought on this. Lemmy advocates like this one have told me that “It doesn’t matter which instance you use. You’ll still be able to interact with communities (subreddits) on all other instances, regardless of which instance your account lives.” Doesn’t defederation prevent interaction between two instances, making the above statement false?

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      I think it would be harmful if defederation became commonplace and fragment the fediverse. On the other hand, I don’t see any issue with there being “niche” instances which have a specific demographic of users they want to serve, and I don’t see any harm in them defederating with other niche instances. Lemmygrad and exploding heads seem like a good example, I’ve heard they’ve defederated each other. I don’t think that affects the overall fediverse too much because the users of those instances would probably block or brigade the other instance anyway. There wouldn’t be any positive interaction between them, so nothing of value has been lost.

      Basically, I think it would be ideal if it’s only the “niche” instances that use defederation as a moderation tool, and most instances only defederate for spam or illegal content.

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        So you’re saying that decentralization would be bad for an intentionally decentralized platform? 🤔

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            Yeah so you want communities to be centralized on major instances that all communicate with each other in unity… So you want Reddit.

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              No, I clearly said I prefer decentralization. Are you intentionally misinterpreting my posts? I’m getting the sense got aren’t participating in these discussions in good faith.

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                Well you don’t understand decentralization if you want big instances instead of tons of small instances and if you don’t want defederation to happen. Isolation also protects each instance from becoming the same.

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                  I didn’t say I prefer a few big instances over many smaller instances. I said I’d prefer if most instances didn’t defederate with other instances, except for spam and illegal content.

                  In going to stop interacting with you now, because I’m almost certain you are not acting in good faith.

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      Defederation doesn’t prevent you from subscribing to the instance that defederated yours, you’ll only be able to interact with people from your own instance when checking content over there.