Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.

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    If the left guarantees dems our votes then they will only move further right to get anti-trump right-wingers’ reluctant votes. They will only be pressured to not be as bad as republicans if we pressure them by not “voting blue no matter who.”

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      That’s purely speculation. I can also speculate that by letting Republicans win, the spineless Dems are just gonna join the winning side and swap over. Plenty have already done so or became libertarians who are just mini republicans. If popular support is on the side of the more extreme right then everyone moves further right. You can literally see this effect in CNN where they have increasingly worse narratives sliding towards the fascist right.

      By the way the same Republicans are portraying the LGBTQ community as associated with groomers and also happen to have the gun nuts on their side. At least democrats don’t actively do that. Republicans have been sliding real fast towards an even more extreme right ever since the trump presidency.

      But sure both are equal and let’s not vote and let Republicans win every seat. Definitely not gona have a worsening affect marginalized communities.

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              You literally refuse to backoff of the point that voting doesn’t matter or that we shouldn’t vote dem over republican so by all means vote republican.

              Since as you say in your argument it doesn’t matter and that Dems are just as bad. Explain to me how it matters based on your arguments so far.

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                  Does voting matter or not? Does voting dem over Republicans matter or not? You keep on writing essays on how bad democrats are and yes they are as I said imperialists still and I never supported voting communism into office and only revolutions can achieve it. But all I am saying is that in the mean time, taking 10min to vote dem over Republicans will at best alleviate worse situations or at worse as you say do nothing so why not do it?

                  What exactly are you trying to argue for?