Well not me but my wife is going on a Scandanavian tour + Finland from Korea next week. Is there anything she should know about before going. I’ve been to Europe myself a few times but not the northern part and I’m just worried bout her even though it is relatively safe up there.
That said, anything she should know good or bad? local customs? warnings? tourist traps?
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The original was posted on /r/sweden by /u/BobbyBacala9980 at 2023-07-25 06:55:33+00:00.
PythonesquePython at 2023-07-25 08:46:04+00:00 ID:
jtd04qx
If you want to be more frugal:
Taxis are expensive as fuck. If you’re spending time in Stockholm, Gothenburg or Malmö its well worth figuring out how the public transport works. It’s quite well designed in the cities.
You can even get from Arlanda airport to Stockholm center using only public transport for 1/10th the price of a taxi. This is slightly cumbersome though. A good middle ground for comfort versus price is “Flygbussarna”.
Also our cities are not that large in area, consider walking to a lot of destinations you’ll see more of the city that way.
The_Legendary_Shrimp at 2023-07-25 12:06:53+00:00 ID:
jtegryb
Swedes and finns are very antisocial, we wont talk to you unless you talk to us
Mmm_daifuku at 2023-07-25 08:09:00+00:00 ID:
jtcxety
Tourist trap: It’s very popular among tourists to buy meatballs at restaurants, because it’s a famous dish outside of Sweden. But many restaurants like in Gamla Stan in Stockholm will charge more knowing this. So my advice is to find restaurants that are outside of the most visited areas and are full of locals. Look or ask for “husmanskost”, and enjoy traditional Swedish food at normal price :)
HawocX at 2023-07-25 09:23:55+00:00 ID:
jtde4jc
In Sweden, you are allowed to hike anywhere in nature outside of house plots. The risk of encountering dangerous animals are slim.
All but the oldest of Swedes can speak basic English.
Low_Key_Giraffe at 2023-07-25 11:36:19+00:00 ID:
jtdexpg
If your in Gothenburg, by all means avoid the (previously) white hatted people, also known as the ticket controllers. I do not care if you have actually bought a ticket, per principle you leave the tram when they enter.
Takenoprisonerplease at 2023-07-25 09:23:55+00:00 ID:
jtdhde7
Sweden:
don’t eat in the old town of Stockholm, its crazy expensive.
Card works everywhere
Ask for help if you need, Swedish people are more social than I was told
Finland:
go and sauna in the city of Helsinki, its cultural experience and its really nice when you are too tired to walk around a whole day.
Norway:
Its expensive, but beautiful
bogvisir at 2023-07-25 07:01:24+00:00 ID:
jtcsboo
Don’t bother getting any travel currency
Purpleshoeshine at 2023-07-25 08:33:19+00:00 ID:
jtcz7d8
Sweden: Visa and Mastercard can be used almost anywhere. American Express and Diners Club will work in some places but far from everywhere.
elevenblade at 2023-07-25 08:57:07+00:00 ID:
jtd0xw3
AmEx usually works in chain grocery stores (Coop, ICA, Lidl, Willy’s, 7-11, etc), larger hotels and upscale restaurants and department stores. Small boutiques, cafés and smaller restaurants usually don’t accept it.
reallyserious at 2023-07-25 09:07:24+00:00 ID:
jtd1oz6
Does Swish work for foreigners?
Arvidex at 2023-07-25 09:10:18+00:00 ID:
jtd1wn2
Yes technically, but you need a Swedish bank, so no realistically.
already-taken-wtf at 2023-07-25 10:42:34+00:00 ID:
jtd95l7
As long as they have a personnummer and a Swedish bank account.
Rising_Spirit at 2023-07-25 09:44:05+00:00 ID:
jtd4ei8
Having some is definitely helpful in case there is any issue with your card
DucklockHolmes at 2023-07-25 09:05:42+00:00 ID:
jtd1kb1
Cash in Sweden is only for buying drugs
Lavithz at 2023-07-25 09:36:54+00:00 ID:
jtd3uyp
i have not seen or used physical cash in Sweden for 25 year. i think this is true XD.
we waste 100s of millions to keep cash and all it does is fueling the drug market.
Indorn at 2023-07-25 10:46:07+00:00 ID:
jtd9gry
And to not be completely in the hands of the banks.
1sarocco1 at 2023-07-25 10:53:29+00:00 ID:
jtda42h
What happens if there’s war and the internet is down? Or if there is a power outage. Then you can’t buy shit.
SwompyGaming at 2023-07-25 09:24:35+00:00 ID:
jtd2yce
some small unmanned shops on the countryside where some cash could be nice since they mostly use cash or swish. but in the city you wont be needing cash
fittan69 at 2023-07-25 11:34:32+00:00 ID:
jtddy60
I keep hearing this. Is this a southern thing? In Norrbotten you can still use cash, though some places are changing this.
Edit: in a city btw
deppkast at 2023-07-25 11:48:31+00:00 ID:
jtdfde9
I have family in Norrbotten and from what I can tell you guy’s seem to be pretty conservative with most technological/societal changes
Heuristics at 2023-07-25 11:59:33+00:00 ID:
jtdgk75
A few years ago we went to the fortress where Charles XII got killed in Norway, they refused to let us in (to the parking) on account of only taking cash. Perhaps they have updated their tech stack now though.
xXMonsterDanger69Xx at 2023-07-25 10:10:08+00:00 ID:
jtd6gkp
Bro give your frisör and lokala pizzeria cash to help them out
manInTheWoods at 2023-07-25 09:12:17+00:00 ID:
jtd21vq
Do get some currency. Some small places do only accept Swish,.which is not available to tourists. With cash, ylu can make a deal with someone to Swish in your place.
fiendishrabbit at 2023-07-25 07:21:07+00:00 ID:
jtctu40
Some is nice. Like 500kr. The “What if there is a freakish accident and the internet is down but I still have a terrible urge to get thaifood right now” money.
RoundishWaterfall at 2023-07-25 09:02:34+00:00 ID:
jtd1c4u
I dont think I’ve had to use cash in the last 15 years to be honest.
helm at 2023-07-25 08:52:30+00:00 ID:
jtd0lxl
The food truck will still have the sign “inga kontanter, tack” up
drl33t at 2023-07-25 08:56:44+00:00 ID:
jtd0wvt
Hard disagree. Don’t think it’s necessary at all.
s-maerken at 2023-07-25 09:03:57+00:00 ID:
jtd1fob
Which happens once every three years, only goes on for a few hours and is almost always restricted to one or two market chains. There’s absolutely no point in carrying cash.
OutrageousMoose8 at 2023-07-25 08:20:57+00:00 ID:
jtcyah5
This probably applies to Finland too
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:27:31+00:00 ID:
jtcys4k
what bout Norway and Denmark?
zethian at 2023-07-25 08:32:37+00:00 ID:
jtcz5jn
Unless travling to the rural countryside or going to a local farmers market, won’t need it there either
TM_Crystal at 2023-07-25 08:42:59+00:00 ID:
jtczwr4
I cannot remember the last time I used cash so as long as your wife isn’t staying for 5 years then the need for cash will probably never arise
s-maerken at 2023-07-25 09:01:18+00:00 ID:
jtd18uj
I haven’t used cash in Sweden for years except when paying for… you know
geon at 2023-07-25 09:05:13+00:00 ID:
jtd1iyu
Buttplugs.
Creator13 at 2023-07-25 09:24:50+00:00 ID:
jtd2z0j
Haven’t touched or seen any cash in the six months I was in Sweden. That said, without having swish, it got a bit more difficult. There was this tiny roadside rural self-service museum that would only accept swish or cash. Swish is not available for travelers unless you somehow already have a Swedish bank account.
Kazath at 2023-07-25 10:14:41+00:00 ID:
jtd6tp8
Have you used Swish sometime in the last five years to pay for something where they didn’t accept cards? Cause this is a situation where they would need cash.
helm at 2023-07-25 08:51:32+00:00 ID:
jtd0jbd
Denmark is always the exception. I was forced to use cash there this summer, but they did accept Euro
Foksn at 2023-07-25 08:30:48+00:00 ID:
jtcz0sz
Just dont bother. Applies to all of Scandinavia.
shitsu13master at 2023-07-25 10:18:15+00:00 ID:
jtd745m
In fact, they don’t take physical money anymore in a lot of places
Pastejkoket2023 at 2023-07-25 06:58:05+00:00 ID:
jtcs2eq
I would recommend asking the same question to bings chat-AI. Set it to creative and you will get good tips.
defronde1 at 2023-07-25 06:57:40+00:00 ID:
jtcs18j
Where are you guys going?
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 07:31:52+00:00 ID:
jtcun4m
Dunno her itinenary… assume just the touristy areas. It’s with a big travel tour group. That’s how Koreans travel… always by tour groups lol
defronde1 at 2023-07-25 07:49:49+00:00 ID:
jtcvzms
In that case I don’t think there will be any issues. They should stay away from any dangerous areas.
Pudding5050 at 2023-07-25 08:49:10+00:00 ID:
jtd0cvl
Oh ffs, there are no “dangerous areas”. And if she’s travelling in a group they’re going to move from one tourist attraction to the other.
defronde1 at 2023-07-25 09:48:17+00:00 ID:
jtd4q10
Tell that to several of my friends who have been mugged in these areas. I had youth gangs throw rocks at me and my girlfriend and was mugged once when I lived there. And that was one of the “safer” areas.
Sticking your head in the sand does not change reality.
Joz43 at 2023-07-25 13:55:01+00:00 ID:
jtduxd3
Since you no longer live there, can you say where specifically you encountered these youth gangs that threw rocks at you? Around what year, and was it a Friday night with lots of drunk people?
Snusandfags at 2023-07-25 07:55:25+00:00 ID:
jtcwerl
Why do you do that?
SweetVarys at 2023-07-25 08:24:01+00:00 ID:
jtcyiwj
It’s comfortable if you don’t speak any relevant language and can’t even really read signs. It’s common for Europeans visiting China for example
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:16:36+00:00 ID:
jtcxyus
Why do Koreans travel in big tour groups? I think it’s mainly for the older folks. They prefer it. Having all the schedule pre planned by someone else and not having to worry about small details (car, hotel).
Also, travelling overseas is still relatively new for the average Korean citizen. Interestingly enough, they weren’t allowed to travel internationally until 1988 because the president believed travelling to be a luxury too rich for a poor country. I believe he also didn’t allow daytime TV because his reasoning was that people should be busy doing things and not watching TV.
xSayZ at 2023-07-25 08:32:39+00:00 ID:
jtcz5mr
Based
eolisk at 2023-07-25 09:00:35+00:00 ID:
jtd16zh
Today I learned South Korea was a dictatorship in 1988?! Did your president really personally decide on these kind of things? 😧
kba334 at 2023-07-25 08:14:59+00:00 ID:
jtcxufl
If approached by someone offering something on the street, it’s most likely a scam.
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:32:07+00:00 ID:
jtcz481
Does Scandanavia suffer from alot of those scam artists/pick pocketters found in other parts of Europe?
Pudding5050 at 2023-07-25 08:49:34+00:00 ID:
jtd0dza
Not really no. There have been people trying to offer a rose (and then demand cash) or asking for you to sign petitions, but I haven’t seen those in years. Definitely nothing on the same level as in the more famous tourist cities.
Keffpie at 2023-07-25 08:48:35+00:00 ID:
jtd0bc8
Not as many, but they do exist since they literally tour Europe during the summer.
FHmange at 2023-07-25 08:56:27+00:00 ID:
jtd0w5j
Not as much as the larger tourist cities in Europe (London, Paris, Barcelona, Rome etc), but it exists here as well.
It’s mostly Gypsies who will attempt these street scams but it’s extremely easy to not fall for it. Swedes almost never come up to you in the street to ask for something or try to small talk randomly, so if someone would do that, just walk away or at least make sure there is no way that they or anyone else around you can take anything from your pockets or bag. Don’t give any money to the gypsy beggars either, if you do you’re pretty much just giving money to organized crime.
Also just make sure no one can pickpocket you in crowds. I’ve only been pickpocketed once in my entire life of living in Stockholm, and I was very drunk and young when that happened and didn’t pay attention (plus it obviously made me an easy target). Just be somewhat smart about where you keep your valuables and you’ll be completely fine.
Stockholm (and all of Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia) is very safe, and you’ll be unlucky if something happens. But it’s still always good to just pay a bit of attention to your surroundings.
PrinceOfFucking at 2023-07-25 08:51:12+00:00 ID:
jtd0idc
It happens, in larger cities like sthlm or gothenberg atleast
Just dont stop and watch those street magicians with cups and a dice/ball, they have friends who “win” so you think youll have a chance and theres a chance there are pickpockets among the audience
Also obviously dont bother with any charity where you have to sign anything as a tourist
ajangvik at 2023-07-25 08:31:36+00:00 ID:
jtcz2v7
If she’s with a big group nothing will happen. The only dangers are for people who are alone in sketchy areas at sketchy times.
Threaditoriale at 2023-07-25 09:36:30+00:00 ID:
jtd3tuc
Sketchy 1 = leaving a night club, after a few hundred meters when the crowd has thinned out
Sketchy 2 = close to the closing time of night clubs
BeardedUnicornBeard at 2023-07-25 07:02:52+00:00 ID:
jtcsfym
You can drink the tap water.
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 07:26:50+00:00 ID:
jtcu9kb
Who in the western world can’t? Except maybe people in parts of Detroit.
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:05:24+00:00 ID:
jtcx53x
I grew up in Toronto and travelled everywhere across the states… I would only drink tap water if there was no other option and it was the last resort, that’s what I was always told to do. However ironically it would later come out that some of these water companies would just bottle local tap water…
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:12:08+00:00 ID:
jtcxmw7
Yep, both Pepsi and Coca Cola taps from municipal water supplies and sells it as bottled water..
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BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:28:29+00:00 ID:
jtcyunf
That’s Corporate America for you…
Aggravating-Ad1703 at 2023-07-25 07:41:35+00:00 ID:
jtcvdgq
When you are Scandinavian everything outside of here taste like shit
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 07:39:34+00:00 ID:
jtcv80c
I from Toronto and I never did… I always prefered overpriced bottled tap water haha
Own_Acanthocephala0 at 2023-07-25 07:42:15+00:00 ID:
jtcvf6n
You won’t find much water on bottle here and it definitely will be overpriced. Everyone drinks straight from the tap since it really can’t get better than that.
ALH at 2023-07-25 07:47:07+00:00 ID:
jtcvsim
What? Overpriced I can agree on but I don’t think I’ve seen a single store that does not have bottled water…
Own_Acanthocephala0 at 2023-07-25 07:54:41+00:00 ID:
jtcwcth
Oh for sure, it was bit of an exaggeration from me. I my mind I was comparing stores in Sweden to stores in many other european nations where they have big full sections of just bottled water. We don’t have the same in Sweden since there isn’t much of a demand on it.
Rapithree at 2023-07-25 07:53:46+00:00 ID:
jtcwa93
If all your water comes from bottles. You get bigger bottles than 0,5l. Those are uncommon here.
ALH at 2023-07-25 07:56:30+00:00 ID:
jtcwhkh
Those are uncommon here.
Not really? Might not be pallets of them in every corner shop like in contintental Europe, but theres usually lots of 1.5 (or 1.4 with shrinkflation) bottles in any grocery store.
CapTension at 2023-07-25 07:43:18+00:00 ID:
jtcvi4j
In my experience if there is cheap still water in the supermarkets in big containers this means a lot of people don’t drink the tap water. If the still water is as expensive as flavored sparkling then most people probably drink the tap water so you should give it a taste.
Baljeep- at 2023-07-25 08:34:41+00:00 ID:
jtczaxu
By swedish tap water standards, most of the US and large parts of europe would have what we consider otjänligt/unfit water
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:52:32+00:00 ID:
jtd0m0a
I know some of us Swedes tend to believe that’s the case, but it’s not. The EU tap water standards are as high as the Swedish ones used to be before we implemented the EU standards too. (https://www.boverket.se/sv/byggande/halsa-och-inomhusmiljo/regler-om-dricksvatten/samhallskrav-pa-dricksvatten/#:~:text=Relaterad%20information-,EU%3As%20dricksvattendirektiv,senast%20den%2012%20januari%202023.)
UncouthMedia at 2023-07-25 07:36:00+00:00 ID:
jtcuy6u
Have you traveled at all? American water is definitely not drinkable and the rest of Europe’s water does at the very least taste really bad.
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 07:41:33+00:00 ID:
jtcvddi
I’ve travelled a lot, yes, and European tap water is perfectly safe to drink. As for the taste, that’s subjective. I find the water tasted better in Malmö where I grew up than in Stockholm where I live, but I know native stockholmers don’t agree.
US tap water is also perfectly safe to drink, with the exception of temporary contaminations. The bottled water you buy there often comes from municipal water supplies.
UncouthMedia at 2023-07-25 07:43:44+00:00 ID:
jtcvjbu
The differences between cities in southern Sweden isn’t comparable to e.g. swedish vs french water though.
Plenty of European countries highly advice against drinking the tap water.
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 07:44:43+00:00 ID:
jtcvm0r
Really? What European countries highly advise against drinking tap water?
Lance-theBoilingSon at 2023-07-25 08:04:38+00:00 ID:
jtcx33w
Parts of Spain, mainly the south and especially the islands, like Mallorca, has a heavy mineral content (limestone, “hard water”) and like many places in the world,it is heavily chlorinated so the locals lug plastic containers home from stores, not so great for the environment. In addition many expats and locals have a filtering system in place, like my mother does.
Maybe Spain is worse than other southern European countries, i’m not sure.Spain certainly has the worst drought problem in Europe.Large parts of the country(center and southeast) is more or less a steppe.
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:08:47+00:00 ID:
jtcxe99
Spanish tap water is safe to drink unless there’s a local exception (about 0,5%). It’s usually the small islands you’re referring to indeed.
Snusandfags at 2023-07-25 07:53:21+00:00 ID:
jtcw970
Greece
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:04:03+00:00 ID:
jtcx1ke
Most ground water in Greece is safe as is (source: EASAC). But they do have water treatment plants for the ground water that isn’t up to par.
UncouthMedia at 2023-07-25 07:54:14+00:00 ID:
jtcwbkk
Currently in Greece. That’s one.
I remember Cyprus, Andorra and Bosnia are places where they highly advice against it, but in pretty much all the rest of them the locals still buy water bottles.
ImToxic00 at 2023-07-25 07:59:57+00:00 ID:
jtcwqp5
Bosnia? Everyone i know drinks tap water There. I buy water from the store but only because i want to support the country A bit more
Lokkuri at 2023-07-25 08:08:10+00:00 ID:
jtcxcm3
Taste isnt subjective when the water is full of contaminations,safe to drink sure, but still full of unwanted flavor
Also half of US tap water is contaminated with PFAS.
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:10:00+00:00 ID:
jtcxhdu
safe to drink sure…
So that’s the end of discussion about the safety standards of tap water. Next time we’ll talk about the culinary experience of tap water.
Lokkuri at 2023-07-25 08:14:43+00:00 ID:
jtcxtrj
Yes, but he did say drinkable…not about safety
And did you just skip the PFAS ?
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:21:06+00:00 ID:
jtcyaxa
He said safe, which it is. American tap water is safe with strict safety regulations in place. You’ll find PFAS in ground water all over the world, including Sweden. Tap water in Sweden is perfectly safe to drink. So is tap water in the US.
bATo76 at 2023-07-25 08:03:28+00:00 ID:
jtcx02c
All tap water safe in Europe and US? This guy diarrheas.
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 08:05:56+00:00 ID:
jtcx6n4
Yes, all tap water in Europe and the US is safe to drink, except for temporary contaminations. Even the water in Detroit is safe to drink.
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Elhiar at 2023-07-25 07:30:25+00:00 ID:
jtcujbq
Lots of places, discouraged in London and Rome for example
Snusandfags at 2023-07-25 07:53:53+00:00 ID:
jtcwak8
London lol, not true at all
throwaway666_999_555 at 2023-07-25 08:26:26+00:00 ID:
jtcypbt
I’ve drank the tap water in London for two decades, you’ll be fine
MrOaiki at 2023-07-25 07:39:58+00:00 ID:
jtcv926
Same goes for London, perfectly safe to drink unless otherwise stated. But temporary contamination happens in Sweden too.
Christoffre at 2023-07-25 08:04:27+00:00 ID:
jtcx2ma
But temporary contamination happens in Sweden too.
My hometown had a temporary contamination of the drinking water, where the amounts of a dangerous substance were doubled.
But that meant that the water was only safe to consume for 40 years, instead of standard 80 years.
They fixed it within a year.
Keffpie at 2023-07-25 08:41:50+00:00 ID:
jtcztry
…and it tastes really good, is the biggest thing I think to stress.
You can drink the water in London or Malaga too, but it tastes like pool water.
deppkast at 2023-07-25 11:44:28+00:00 ID:
jtdeybh
The only tap water I’ve tasted that is better than Swedish tap water was fresh mountain water from the tap, it tasted sweeter in a way
Cookiest0mper at 2023-07-25 13:20:23+00:00 ID:
jtdq95r
Your milage may vary, a lot. Tap water in Stockholm? Generally good as long as the pipes aren’t ancient(which they may be). Tap water in Gävle? Disgusting.
deppkast at 2023-07-25 14:11:54+00:00 ID:
jtdxb53
I am indeed from stockholm, born raised and living, still got nothing on mountain water imo. Stockholm tap water just tastes like nothing in the best way, but that mountain water was sweet and so clean
ComprehensivePea269 at 2023-07-25 09:00:32+00:00 ID:
jtd16u6
Tasted Uppsala water didn’t taste as great as Dalecarlian water.
grimexp at 2023-07-25 06:59:29+00:00 ID:
jtcs6aw
Beware of the polar bears roaming the streets.
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 07:55:19+00:00 ID:
jtcwehu
I grew up in Canada… saw them everywhere so I’m used to them.
Paws_On_Keyboard at 2023-07-25 08:18:47+00:00 ID:
jtcy4je
Never been there, but I’ve often gotten the feeling that we’re quite similar in a lot of ways.
BobbyBacala9980 (OP) at 2023-07-25 08:54:19+00:00 ID:
jtd0qpp
Actually reading peoples replies here I find Koreans and Sweden very similar
Shirazmatas at 2023-07-25 08:35:44+00:00 ID:
jtczdrl
Get a card with 0% conversion fee (like Revolut or Lunar) use that card for payments and you’ll save yourself the hassle of getting cash or paying fees. Tourist traps are common in Stockholm but not as common in the north (except expensive resort packages).
anv1dare at 2023-07-25 08:47:16+00:00 ID:
jtd07xu
Don’t tip. Ever!
It’s generally very safe there, so not much to worry about. If you are planning on doing a lot of hiking in unpopulated areas make sure you do your due diligence. The weather is pretty nice in the summer. Nearly everyone speaks good English, with the exceptions of some older people and those in rural areas. Enjoy your time there, the people are friendly and the land is breathtaking.
watercolorinc at 2023-07-25 08:49:32+00:00 ID:
jtd0dvk
Check the museum opening times before trying to visit them. A lot of people try to go to certain museums on the days they are closed, some on Mondays for example. She won’t want to stand there at the entrance with a frown when it’s locked.
