So I recently started playing role queue ranked, and I have no idea how I can get better, or whats the difference between lower and upper MMR players.

I used to play Starcraft, and I always knew in each league what was my problems, what went wrong in the game, and what I could do better in the next one.

In guardian level games I can see players stopping spirit breaker using charge of darkness with rod of atos in the blink of an eye, using tinker perfectly, starting and finishing every teamfight perfectly, and other plays that I don’t know how can get better. And still its only guardian, and can’t imagine what they do better in immortal.

But dota has so much more factors, like games can get decided during picking heroes, there are 4 other players in the team that I don’t always watch / know what they are doing. Is it even possible to judge a players skill correctly in dota?

In my current league (around guardian 2) 90% of the games are about one team absolutely destroying the other. I feel like whatever I do is pointless, because either the team is doing fine without me, or can’t do anything that will turn the game around, because of bad picks or that 1 or 2 players with 0-9-1 at 8 minutes.

I prefer to play soft / hard support. Not sure how much this sound like “everybody is bad except me”, but I’m totally open to the idea, that I’m just bad. But as I said, I have no idea what I’m doing wrong.

So I was wondering what could I do to get involved in better games. I don’t even dream of getting a high MMR (though it would be pleasing), I only want to play fun and close games where the team works as a team. My only guess / hope is that at higher levels games will get better.

  • catlover@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    1 year ago

    Thanks for the detailed analysis :) I don’t have much to say about the CM game. You are right about me not using undying as I should have, but I’ll try next time.

    Why did you start with Wind Lace?

    I watched few of BSJ-s coach videos, and thought that I’ll try windlace first, because of the mobility it provides, because supports move a lot. Maybe would have been good if I actually ran at them. I know he coaches pos5, and I played 4 here, but still wanted to try new things.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah I mean Wind Lace is good, just not as a starting item. By choosing that item, you’re basically saying “I expect to need perfect positioning to survive this lane”, which is just not Undying. As a Crystal Maiden Wind Lace is much better, but you still only want it as a starting item if you don’t/can’t fight, since it’s 250 gold into only positioning, not your strength as a hero.

      But as Undying you want to just run at people, while that is “running” as well, it’s more about area control. If you run at them and they run away, it doesn’t matter if you catch them or not, they’re not farming during that time, which is already a win for you.