Is covid-liberalism a bannable offense in c/covid?

I’m getting really fucking weary of seeing sentiments like, “being upset about someone scheduling a non-emergency dental appointment in the middle of the second largest covid wave is deranged” or “you’re a selfish asshole for expecting your loved ones to do the bare fucking minimum to protect you” in discussions on masking or vaccine uptake

I know I’m not the only one disappointed in the growing anomie. Maybe we should operate more like c/vegan where everything from omnivore apologia to overt antiveganism (analogous to the above anti-precaution/anti-max/anti-vax-apologia) is forbidden, and posting/commenting as much gets you a ban?

  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    20·
    8 months ago

    I don’t know what liberalism is even supposed to mean in this context; surely any sort of Marxist or materialist analysis would tend to put the blame on the systemic forces shoving people into the orphan juicing machine, not on the individuals navigating the systems incompetently.

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      17·
      8 months ago

      OP of that post was also not actually blaming his partner, it was a vent post, a way to air frustrations that are not worth or appropriate to do more than that for. It is extremely silly to frame it this way, like he sat down and ran the numbers and its all his partners fault, thats not the kind of post it was

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        10·
        8 months ago

        I mean I read the following

        She’s also sorry, and I say it’s fine because I want her to feel better and recover, but secretly I’m fucking raging.

        As raging at her. That’s what it seems to convey to me. If not, then yeah, disregard me.

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          18·
          8 months ago

          I am fairly sure that its more along the lines of “fucking raging” at the 7th red light in a row on your 40 minute commute when you just want to be home after a double shift

          Not like baying for blood, but like, GAAHH. I imagine the person who wrote that post spent exactly as long thinking of what words to use there as they took to type them out, it wasn’t an effort post

          I could also be wrong, but this is hexbear and we’re supposed to assume good faith, especially in the context of an emotional vent post

          • ButtBidet [he/him]@hexbear.netMEnglish
            18·
            8 months ago

            Not like baying for blood, but like, GAAHH. I imagine the person who wrote that post spent exactly as long thinking of what words to use there as they took to type them out, it wasn’t an effort post

            Literally thank you. I thought of putting an edit under the post, but we’re all grown ups. I just needed a space to unload my feelings when unloading on my partner wasn’t helpful.

            • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
              12·
              8 months ago

              Yeah, there’s several of those responses now in that thread and they piss me way off.

              Im definitely with you that the healthier perspective is not to blame the person but the system that has inflicted this, while being as supportive as possible with prophylactics/ strategies etc, but thats the rational response, I’d be pissed at my partner too internally even while fully rationally aware that its silly to feel that way, but I wouldn’t not feel that way inside a little lol

          • usa_suxxx [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            2·
            8 months ago

            I don’t interpret it that way, but I also don’t think being angry at something makes someone bad faith. Emotions aren’t exactly logical and rational things.

    • dat_math [they/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      15·
      8 months ago

      You Someone else was deliberately undermining evidence-based precautionary advice regarding vaccines and masking, despite, apparently possessing the knowledge and tools to see that what you were dispensing was at best merely dismissive of individual efforts towards harm reduction in their own lives, and at its worst, simply harmful advice.

      To be aware of one’s own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type.

      edited: sorry, I’m losing my mind and conflated you with another user

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        14·
        8 months ago

        You were deliberately undermining evidence-based precautionary advice regarding vaccines and masking

        Yes, as evidenced by the fact that I stated I masked everyday in a KN95, spray ELAH in my nostrils twice daily, and have every vaccine I am eligible for.

        Look you don’t get to pretend everyone who has a different take on the morality of individual covid precautions is undermining the science of individual covid precautions. I was arguing with a colleague in March 2020 about the efficacy of the N95 I was wearing to the store because “CDC said there’s no evidence those help”, I’m not about to take accusations of mask efficacy minimization from you seriously.