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minus-squaremellowheat@suppo.filinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down4·9 months agoPerhaps I perceive this wrong, but it seems like the counterimplication is that this war is primarily between US/NATO and Russia with Ukraine being just a pawn. I don’t think that’s quite true either.
minus-squarecarl_marks[use name]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up3·9 months agoI mean it is mostly is and would like to hear why it’s not true for you. The case that Ukraine is mostly a pawn is that it gets major military and economic support from NATO/US https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-pledges-further-major-military-economic-aid-ukraine-2024-01-10/ gets information support from NATO [the public/media discourse is heavy pro ukraine; ranging from bbc, dw, france24, nyt, wsj, reuters, etc. ] NATO is picking ukraines leaders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k NATO is telling Ukraine what to do by coercing not to negotiate for peace https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/ While the US knew the consequences of NATO expension https://youtu.be/E3tdF2S04wg?si=cmjik9lRDryxHHEB&t=1312 [love that timestamp]
minus-squarePipedLinkBot@feddit.rocksBlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·9 months agoHere is an alternative Piped link(s): https://www.piped.video/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k https://piped.video/E3tdF2S04wg?si=cmjik9lRDryxHHEB&t=1312 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Perhaps I perceive this wrong, but it seems like the counterimplication is that this war is primarily between US/NATO and Russia with Ukraine being just a pawn. I don’t think that’s quite true either.
I mean it is mostly is and would like to hear why it’s not true for you.
The case that Ukraine is mostly a pawn is that it gets major military and economic support from NATO/US https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-pledges-further-major-military-economic-aid-ukraine-2024-01-10/ gets information support from NATO [the public/media discourse is heavy pro ukraine; ranging from bbc, dw, france24, nyt, wsj, reuters, etc. ] NATO is picking ukraines leaders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k NATO is telling Ukraine what to do by coercing not to negotiate for peace https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/ While the US knew the consequences of NATO expension https://youtu.be/E3tdF2S04wg?si=cmjik9lRDryxHHEB&t=1312 [love that timestamp]
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k
https://piped.video/E3tdF2S04wg?si=cmjik9lRDryxHHEB&t=1312
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.