… there’s an argument to be made that…maybe they didn’t vote that way.

There’s some serious irregularities in the way votes are appearing in key battleground states. The number of bullet votes is insanely off (historically 0.1%, but somehow 7% in BG states), a historical amount of people voting blue down ballot, I except Trump, the number of bomb threats called into ballot counting areas in BG states, and how all of the irregularities are only being found in BG states.

It makes you step back and say… something weird is going on here.

Ah yes, kindness, compassion, and empathy being considered “wokeness”. Can’t have that. Much better to have hate, disgust, and cruelty.

Yeah, I find I need to read a book or find some other way to engage my brain - woodworking, painting, gardening, etc… The enjoyment comes back.

Here here!

Gummies are incredibly easy to make. I just made a batch 2 days ago that are sitting in my counter drying before I put a powdered sugar on the outside of them and stick them in the freezer. I use moulds so that I know EXACTLY how much I’m dosing. And the best part? I’m not destroying my lungs by any means.

I would agree…but he’s working under Trump. The second that Rubio is “too moderate” he’s going to ask Rubio to resign.

Yes, put unqualified sycophants in the role. That’s sure to be super efficient. Good job Trump.

It’s hard to do this in a phone, and I haven’t really had time to properly respond, but here it goes.

This doesn’t mean that the whole movement supports or advocates for these things. There’s no major effort on the right to do any of these things.

There’s been no push back from your party leaders on these issues. You have a loud portion of your group screaming these things. Omission of acceptance doesn’t mean it isn’t implied. If there was a sizable opposition or vocal portion of conservatives stating that they don’t support these things, that would be one thing…but there isn’t.

Are you talking about getting rid of the Department Of Education? Defending their record of educating the American people is a tough road.

The Department has played a vital role in supporting public education nationwide. It has narrowed the gap between students of other ethnicities, and has provided beneficial assistance to low-income areas in order to provide many of these students with ways to make it into higher education. It makes sure that schools adhere to Title IX, and helps to enforce students rights within schools.

By getting rid of the DOE without a plan to support public schools, means we’re leaving significant portions of our populace without the means to access affordable education. Sure, you can get into a voucher program, but it’s quite obvious that this is just a means to funnel taxpayer money into private institutions. What happens if/when there are no more public schools? If they remove that voucher program, where are low-income students going to go?

This doesn’t seem likely to happen since Trump wants to keep it

From what I understand, he’s been wanting to get rid of it and the ACA since 2016. It’s a socialized support system, and it hits all the markers of things that Trump and his cronies have been wanting to get rid of for years. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t try to take a few shots at it.

There’s no mainstream movement on the right to strip rights from people, unless you would count abortion as a right.

Ending birthright citizenships, ending DEI initiatives, elimination and suppression of unions and workers rights, rollback of child protection laws in the workplace. Those are all mainstream conservative movements. Getting rid of contraceptives and banning abortion is essentially forcing Christian morality upon everyone else.

It’s clear that the right wants an uneducated workforce that they can abuse, underpay, and take advantage of, and the best way to do that is make education the enemy and let them revel in their ignorance. It’s class warfare, and I’m worried that most people on the right are unaware of it.

Love it.

As a dude, I will never allow anyone to ever talk like this to anyone else. No one is “an object”. The idea of it is insanity.

People on your side are literally advocating hatred of minorities, the reduction of rights for women, and the overthrow of our Democracy. Our two sides are not the same. If your party platform has a different take on education, border security, or the economy…then that’s one thing, but when they are literally trying to removed Public Education to dumb down the average worker, dismantle our social security, and strip the rights of our people how is that “the same”? Why should anyone on the left be “tolerant” to that hatred?

I’m not trying to attack you, I’m down for a legitimate discussion here, because I’m sure you have passionate reasons for voting the way you did, and I’d like to understand where the disconnect is here…

Yeah. I get it. As a progressive, I don’t go to any business that proudly flies a Trump flag. I don’t trust that they will rationally think a problem through and I would have deep concerns about their decision making skills. Plus, the fact that it’s inappropriate to discuss politics at work, yet they feel it’s acceptable to back a political candidate? It’s repulsive.

…yes…like very normal people…

…because taxing the rich, adding affordable daycare/child tax credits, a propose ban on price gouging, and other middle class incentives were abandoning the left…totes. The narrative that’s being pushed here is pretty bullshit. Her platform was on point for the middle class and below.

Sure. She campaigned in battleground states, more than any where else…but that was strategic. And it makes sense at the time.

Everyone just keeps saying “she abandoned the left” without adding literally any examples of it.

The DNC fucked up by not holding primaries, but Harris ran a pretty damn good game.

Go S.Korea!! This is the kind of shit we need in the US too! The amount of inspirational stuff coming of of Korea right now is amazing.

He gave them table scraps while feasting with his cronies (remember those COVID checks?).

Just look at what happened the farms after Brexit. Lol. That will tell you all you need to know.

I don’t believe that it is. I believe that the problem lies in the fact that we’re not communicating effectively with the voting base. Her policies we’re not bad and effectively DID target the working class, for example child care and expanding taxes on the upper class. Her economic policies were strong and we would have seen benefits. However, none of this matters if this information isn’t getting to the voter base.

Conservatives are actively targeting Gen Z and nonpoliticals with absolutely bullshit lies - for example, staying that liberals are actually racist, that DEI is making things worse for people, and that our whole policy is based on insults and hatred. Of course, to anyone paying any attention, this is blatantly false…but to an outside viewer, whose struggling to make ends meet, who’s single and insular, whose constantly told that women have it rough (and nothing about how to deal with men’s problems) they find the conservative arguments start to gain roots.

We want to win next time? We need to talk to people. Tell them what being a man really means. That empathy, not control, is what a society like the US should be based on.

Hey, so the 15 million thing isn’t true. That was the number before all of the votes came in. She actually gained votes in battleground states, but lost them in non-battleground states (states that didn’t really matter). Just a heads up. We need to be using facts here (not trying to attack, just trying to get that information out).

I can’t believe there’s even a risk of people voting in someone as morally repugnant as Trump.

“I was beaten as a child, and I turned out fine.” ~ Person who is not fine.