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Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPto Luigi Mangione@lemmy.world•Luigi Mangione officially accepts $300k for legal defenseEnglish46·5 months agoYeah so this quote isn‘t by him or his lawyers, it‘s from those running the fundraiser. I do think calling themselves “legal committee” is confusing too and why I didn’t trust it until now, but it does seem like they are truly in contact with the lawyers to get that money there at least.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Nobody hates working together with leftists more than leftistsEnglish13·5 months agoI‘ve only met one vegan IRL, but it was pretty much exactly like the top, the bottom I’ve only seen online. They said to me if I more people reduce meat consumption that would be a great contribution to their cause. They didn‘t shame me, only explained their POV. I couldn‘t quite see it then, but agreed on parts of it. I did end up eating less meat and been vegetarian for a few months now, which I never thought possible.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPto Luigi Mangione@lemmy.world•Sums up the situationEnglish7·6 months agoI think it‘s fair to have that opinion. I don‘t want to disregard all of the more pacifist people‘s points and I think they often have an important role in changing the world for the better. I also think violence sometimes is justified based on the conditions though.
So, I do have some notes on where we differ in our thinking based on your comment:
1: Death penalty to me is not comparable since the state, unlike an individual, has the power and resources available to dispense alternative punishments (prison, fines).
2: The state is also at fault for the conditions pictured in the meme, since it supports and rewards the processes that made BT possible, peaceful change seemingly impossible (check out study behind this https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba ) and LM (allegedly) inevitable.
3: We can never know the future, nor can we tell with certainty even afterwards if some small event like this has an impact. That doesn’t mean none of them were worthwhile though. For an example, do you think John Brown affected change?
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPto Luigi Mangione@lemmy.world•A well made LM TikTok edit, which has been removed off TikTokEnglish2·6 months agoIt was similar with the original too, it was removed, restored and then removed again. Then they gave up I think. I follow the creator now cause I finally ran into a repost mentioning them (@rosariofromnj is their handle).
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPto Luigi Mangione@lemmy.world•A well made LM TikTok edit, which has been removed off TikTokEnglish2·6 months agoI tried to sign up 2 days ago, but so far no email from them and I can‘t login without that. It also sounds like they might be a bit strict on what videos they accept in this test phase, I‘ll try though.
I‘ve also started downloading more Luigi edits since they‘re being removed left and right, but most aren‘t that good.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Luigi Mangione@lemmy.world•r/LuigiMangione has been banned from RedditEnglish51·6 months agoCan‘t even say Deny Defend Depose in that sub, and who knows what else can get you banned there. Saying BT deserved it, for sure would. Not blaming mods for that since they‘re just trying their best to keep it alive, but Reddit has been lost to any controversial discourse for a long time (it‘s why I signed up here originally).
Like yeah, I‘d like to have a moral argument with someone who thinks political violence is always wrong, but we ain‘t ever going to have it on there in a real way, cause if I don‘t self-censor my side of it, it‘s going to get me banned.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•The people have spokenEnglish141·7 months agoSharing news on the case and memes like this one, so just wondering if anything is on here. Guess it‘s a no?
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•The people have spokenEnglish193·7 months agoAnyone know of any Luigi community on Lemmy yet? I tried, but can‘t really find one, it would be nice to have since they‘re all getting banned off Reddit.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto News@lemmy.world•GoFundMe races to remove fundraising pages supporting Luigi MangioneEnglish9·7 months agoI‘m a piracy fan and I‘m on dbzer0 instance as it‘s an offshoot of r/piracy. I barely post and lurk more, so I don‘t really know how they‘d moderate on the Luigi situation. The owner seems to be an anarchist and historically anarchist action wasn‘t all peaceful, most anarchists seem to support a “diversity of tactics” one of which is violence. Which makes sense to me, it’s like self defense cause what Americans are dealing with here is structural violence and what looks like zero hope for change.
Any of you see this yet? Apparently his last words, not sure if true so take with a grain of salt - but it seems like it could be.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto news@hexbear.net•The last thing Luigi liked on GoodreadsEnglish5·7 months agoAny of you see the other one on Unabomber manifesto? Was up on Reddit for a while, but got removed for “call to violence”.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoMicroblog Memes@lemmy.world•Public money is spent to benefit the rich more then the poorEnglish15·7 months agoIn line and on display to motivate the near-homeless working class to keep going to their three jobs to stay afloat.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoMicroblog Memes@lemmy.world•I hope it's not maggieEnglish1·7 months agoWhat I saw online (take with grain of salt) is UHC has 29,000,000 customers, and a 32% denial rate (the highest in the industry), so that gives us a possible 9,280,000 people denied if there were 1 claim per person a year.
That is obviously super rough guess, cause not every customer makes a claim a year, some may make none and some multiple for the same thing that could repeatedly get denied.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•What would you considered "Ethical Piracy"English12·2 years agoOn Anna‘s Archive Front Page there is a book “Against Intellectual Monopoly”, I think it would give you an interesting perspective to consider too.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Are we committed to Lemmy? or would we move if something better comes along?English20·2 years agoI‘m committed to decentralized social media, so for now that’s this and kbin yeah.
I hope though that eventually a better UI in some app can help with your disability, being physically ill doesn‘t sound like a good time at all.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•repost: Should r/Piracy continue protesting?English21·2 years agoI don‘t even think it‘s worth it for me to go and vote, just gives spez a click he doesn‘t deserve. Maybe best for me to leave it up to those who still give a shit about Reddit to decide what they want to do with their platform. As long as this instance is up, I‘m good! Ty db0!
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•[Rant] The people - or rather the attitude - of r/piracy31·2 years agodeleted by creator
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•DeletedEnglish6·2 years agoCompletely so nobody ever does it? No, there is no way. Though I think the goal is set more realistically like that to make it inconvenient and push it out of the mainstream as much as they can, which seems to be going alright.
Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Where could I sell old reddit accounts? Preferably to a bot network.English16·2 years agoSmart idea, I just deleted them, I bet my oldest would have fetched a good price. Ah well.
I don‘t think you‘re missing much, except that someone is able to want to support both the perpetrator and anyone who might be falsely accused of being him. So far we don‘t know and he did plead NOT guilty.
I‘ll try to explain my viewpoint further, I‘m against innocent people being convicted in a public court of opinion by media ahead of the trials and paraded around by police. In that case he needs the money for defense and I hope it all comes out.
I’m also against mass murder of people by for profit healthcare. I‘m not cheery about it having come to violence, it is tragic, but it seems like there is little hope for change left in broken US political system where lobbying money decides policy. Personally I don’t think hero fits, maybe antihero. Anyway, I‘ll still hope for the best possible outcome for him in that scenario, even if he is convicted of all that at least with the donations he might afford to fight it for a while and spread some more awareness on the issue.