I mean do you actually know or are you just assuming?

All of them at their disposal, we should get rid of all tools

Because they want the majority of the new chips for training models, not running the existing ones would be my assertion. Two different use cases

There’s no functional difference aside from usage and scale, which is my point.

I find it interesting that the only actual energy calculations I see from researchers is the training and the things going along with the training, rather then the usage per actual request after training.

People then conflate training energy costs to normal usage cost without data to back it up. I don’t have the data either but I do have what I can do/see on my side.

It’s literally the same thing, the obvious difference is how much usage it’s getting at a time per gpu, but everyone seems to assume all these data centers are running at full load at all times for some reason?

So you think they’re all at full load at all times? Does that seem reasonable to you?

I mean I literally run a local LLM, while the model sits in memory it’s really not using up a crazy amount of resources, I should hook up something to actually measure exactly how much it’s pulling vs just looking at htop/atop and guesstimating based on load TBF.

Vs when I play a game and the fans start blaring and it heats up and you can clearly see the usage increasing across various metrics

I’m guessing you’re likely also somewhere on the ADHD/Autism spectrum like me.

I do, because they’re not at full load the entire time it’s in use

How exactly did you come across this “fact”?

I’ve never really had many techy friends/family members so that’s where a large amount of my own research/rabbit holes usually go lol.

Like a few months ago I did a whole home server/homelab setup with proxmox several LXCs etc just from a desire to learn. I found Linux way back at age 12 but didn’t really dig too far beyond being able to sit in the corner of our empty house so I could reach my neighbors shared wifi and watch anime/Yt (laptop literally did not function on windows XP when it was gifted to my dad for comparison lol)

Powerautomate for work has been a great time sink and a ton to learn there still and I’m learning how to do sysadmin and web coding things as well.

For like rando interesting facts, it’s hard because without a trigger I can’t usually just come up with a fact even though I might have gone down a 20+tab Wikipedia rabbit hole in a subject haha

This is one of the reasons I am so angry with the dnc, the ones who ostensibly should be harnessing the clear energy that exists for good instead just does fuck all and then when the next election comes around holds it over our heads like “we’ll seriously do it this time guys for real”

Protests, to me, show there is energy there to be harnessed, the protest itself isn’t going to solve anything.

Hahaha at this point even facts and logic is a rage inducing argument. “My facts” vs “Your facts”

Right on!

Luckily I ignored everyone telling me to stop and once I got the internet… Yeah similar to your paragraph lol the rabbit hole of how and why is deep!

But then the rage machine couldn’t rage

Yeah I don’t disagree that a lot of the time, especially when used by kids or edge lords it’s moreso just a way to try to end conversation, but I do think it’s worth having that discussion when it comes up if they’re in good faith.

Like here the op should absolutely explain why it is a social construct instead of what it appears they’re implying they do which is just… Either give up or probably force the kid to do it anyway without explaining.

I was one of those kids who always asked why and most adults just wanted me to shut the fuck up. 🤷‍♂️ I definitely also was an edge lord in my teens and grew out of that for the most part, but throughout I didn’t lose my curiosity.

I think a lot of kids have that curiosity beaten out of them unfortunately and we should try to encourage it more. Idk tho I swore off having kids

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They can’t read lol

I think the point is the fact it’s a social construct on its own is neither pro or against the thing itself, rather that it can/should be able to be questioned.

Yes wearing socks is a social construct, but it provides inherent benefits such as reducing the smell produced by your feet and lingering in the shoes. It also helps protect your feet further in some ways then just a shoe alone would.

Bro you’re the one claiming I was wrong, I didn’t make this into a whole back and forth, you did.

The technically correct joke is when someone comes in and nit picks something, exactly what you’re doing.

I do not see how the protests have actually accomplished anything over the past two decades I’ve been paying attention.

The protests against the war in the middle east, we didn’t pull out until Biden

Occupy Wallstreet, literally nothing happened

Black Lives Matter, literally nothing happened

First trump admin lots of protests, literally nothing happened

Defund the police, hey it’s like they have more money now somehow

All the trump 2 protests, what has actually been accomplished?

I do think protests can work, but these are all too disjointed with no real end goal in sight and I find it mighty suspicious when some of them are funded by billionaires yes.

The same billionaires who happily keep us fighting amongst ourselves while they loot the treasury and slide us further toward facism.

What we need is an actual movement united in a common goal and working in lock step, something the proud boys et all figured out on the right years ago and clearly actually worked for them