Hnngh hnngh yes yes quite the unwashed masses need to be kept far from power hmm yes Tallyho good man hmm hmm.

Yep.

I’m a fussy arsehole about tomatoes and in general tomatoes at the market are crap cultivars that were picked underripe. Canned typically has more flavour.

Not true for all brands, some canning companies are buying the ones nobody else wanted, some times of year the ones on the shelf are actually good, sometimes your local coop has tomatoes a cool person picked yesterday afternoon.

In general the most popular cultivars of tomatoes are garbage and bland. They are grown for pest tolerance, shelf appearance, and ease of harvesting. Roma is often better at doing the same things in a dish with more flavour.

Whitlam. No competition, most good things in Australia can be traced to the government under him and very few bad things.

Yeah recency bias is always a thing.

I feel like there’s 3 cool users I enjoy talking to on aussie.zone.

The mainstream culture in aus is pretty conservative and reactionary though, usual for postcolonial settler state :|

Depending on how your dehumidifier works you can use it for many things.

If it’s chemically operated the water is going to be full of whatever hygroscopic salt is being consumed so maybe just for washing clothes/dishes

If it’s the standard refridgeration based type then it is essentially collecting distilled water from the air. However that water is then left to stand on the cooling surface/in the resovfrenchnoiseswhocanspelltheirwords.

It might have collected some dust, mold, or algae. It could have also trapped any contaminatants from the air in your home as air was cycled past the wet elements.

I would not drink or cook with it, but unless you are operating it next to a source of harmful pollutants like say a 3d printer, stove, fireplace, or a very moldy laundry it is going to be fine for washing and watering.

I would also add the subtly that this question:

On the whole, are you very satisfied, fairly satisfied, not very satisfied, or not at all satisfied with the way democracy works in Australia?

Is not “do you want more or less democracy?”. We only nominally have a democracy, we can’t for example fire a government (non violently) that broke all it’s promises. We can’t force certain bills to be presented or not, we can’t directly vote on any issue, our workplaces are almost exclusively dictatorial. Even within the system we have defects like the popular vote to seat count being completely whack because of single member seats in the lower house (very unusual among democracies).

Saying you are dissatisfied could mean you’re an authoritarian dickwad, but so could saying you’re satisfied. People who want more democracy, lots of citizen involvement, and more accurate representation of the people are not against democracy but would also say they’re very unsatisfied. I mean society is getting measureably worse while we careen into a global crisis of apocalyptic proportions, who the fuck things this is working?

Anything veganism (positive)

I just picked it up from a shelter, obviously not pet stock so who cares?

Hope each of you are happy about the dead horses

Extremely cheap for performance and build quality via ex corporate market. Strong linux support and l largely unchanged form factor means parts are also cheap and widely available. Even stuff like trackpad assemblies can often be swapped between styles.

Performance is adequate for normal enthusiast computing. Excessive for common videos + internet but cheap enough to justify.

They’re good /shrug but they’re just a thing. Do what makes you makes you happy, you don’t have to impress anyone it’s just a grid of lights that make you sad in a distracting way.

The clay pot is amazing!

LMAO it is most certainly not, but learning anything is about doing garbage at it until one day you don’t.

Did you learn about purifying the clay online?

Yeah, I watched a youtube video by a guy making pots from clay on his potatoes a few years ago. It’s basically just pouring off the light/water soluble stuff and settling it out.

I recently started taking a wheel pottery class and the instructor mentioned that clay came from my home town. That and how heavily clay my soil is at home got me thinking about if I could do something similar.

Oh cool! I’ve been looking for a class near me as making ceramics seems fun and practical. Wheels def seem more practical than coil building haha but harder to start than “huh I have a lot of dirt left over”. Andy ward has some videos on wet processing (n.b. he does ‘ancient’ style and uses animal products like bone and leather as tools, his wet process videos are innocuous though). You’d need to add a ferment step to remove organics if there are any present.

I don’t know if you’d need to do more purification to get stuff that fires to stoneware. Commercial clay is usually very homogeneous and often has additives for ease of working. Hone processed will have less uniform particle size/composition etc.

Do you have access to a kiln, or will you try and construct your own?

There’s a local pottery club, but this might melt in a proper kiln. I was going to fire it in a charcoal fire to dull red. It won’t be water tight but I’m just having a play really and I have lots of charcoal from blacksmithing. If you just want earthenware building a hot fire will do it, you can actually make some very beautiful stuff with techniques like smudging (incorporating carbon from the fire in the finish).

Yeah that made me cringe a bit.

If you admire people doing a behaviour just do it yourself. We’re all garbage here; going vegan requires no great intelligence, moral fortitude, wealth, or ability.

Literally all you have to do is not buy some stuff. Boom, you’re vegan now. Congrats.

incredibly based.

It literally uses more ariable land to eat meat. Chickens, pigs they’re fed grain. Most cows are too, there isn’t enough pasture on the planet to meet the demand.

Most impoverished nations are largely plant based, but neither of us live there. we’re talking about why you, an Aussie aren’t vegan.

I’m sure if I came from a culture that was different, endured hardships(like starving to death) or even just viewed them differently, maybe I would too

It’s very strange to me to suggest that whether or not it is right or wrong depends on the culture you are raised in. This has troubling implications for other acts. DV is very common in Australia, is it less wrong to beat your wife here than in Germany?

Unless you have some way to rapidly switch billions of dollar of farming industry to purely plant based industries?

we are not talking about entire industries, we are talking about you right now. Unless you mean to say you take some sort of economic catagorical imperative as a way of deciding how to act?

not it would make it ok if they were

Wait, would it be ok to farm dogs in your eyes? Like does the reason for their death matter? Food or fighting it’s all pleasure since it’s not healthy or cheap to eat meat, nor is it environmentally friendly.

You keep using the word humane, the dictionary definition of that word is: Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion

That obviously can’t be what you mean, as it is not compassionate, kind, or merciful to kill someone when they don’t need to die. What do you mean by it?

I’d be aghast if you were doing so recreationally

Isn’t eating meat recreational? It’s not healthy, necessary, or environmentally friendly. The only reason to do so is that it is pleasurable. I.e. it is a recreational activity. Unless you are an Inuit or something that depends on hunting to survive.

But cows in feedlots necessarily die… I mean most fighting dogs don’t get chained to that eating fence. Or say broiler chickens, stuck in a shed and frequently having their own bones collapse under their growing weight. Even that aside, surely if I told you I intend to breed dogs, pamper them, then at 2 years old bolt gun them and repeat you’d be a little aghast? no?

You’re a bit all over the shop and I don’t want you to feel like I’m not listening to you. So what do you want to talk about of the following:

• environmental impact (whales are important to ecosystems)
• waste (it’s wasteful to kill whales)
• Quality of life/the repugnant conclusion
• what it means to be humane
• whether it is possible to eat meat without factory farming

Or if there is another issue you’d rather talk about?

Well fair enough, if you think people should prioritise their own comfort over justice then at least you’re consistent. It is beyond my ability to convince you otherwise.

What about some cost though? Like if someone’s friend is actively being transphobic you’d probably expect them to step in right?

This seems like half an argument from nature, which is a bit odd. I mean I don’t see you arguing against using antibiotics despite most humans since recorded history not using them or whatever.

Tradition is a bad argument for anything. Either it is right or wrong to kill animals when we don’t need to. I’m sure you take a rather dim view of whaling because it is unnecessary, despite it being deeply entwined with many cultures and historically common. Or dog fighting or whatever.

Why is eating cows different to whaling, fighting dogs, or using elephants in circuses. If we don’t need to eat them it’s only for fun we do.