Religion exists, is followed by many people, and impacts our lives. If you want an understanding of history to you have to have basic background on religious beliefs.

“Hurr durr skydaddy” is a deliberate refusal to think. It is lazy, it is stupid, it is embarrassing, and it does nothing to help you better understand why things are happening in the world.

The inability to distinguish proselytizing from any other discussion of religion does not imply good things about your logical reasoning skills.

What religion do I follow that I am bothering people about?

This proves the exact point that was made earlier - that for some reason, Lemmings are unable to access any critical thinking skills when it comes to religion. You turn your brain off, and just reflexively post r/atheism slogans.

Like, you get there’s a difference between people proselytizing and people talking about religion? Or am I to believe that the professor for the graduate class in religious historiography I took assigned me books about Muslims because he wanted me to convert to Islam?

This just makes you look stupid.

It’s possible to be an atheist without acting like a 12 year old.

The president nixed the SAVE act, and my state made it illegal for trannies to be teachers.

I cannot budget around paying for a degree for a job that they decided I wouldn’t be allowed to have after I graduated.

I darn my socks and clothes instead of throwing them away. I don’t eat out unless it’s something like pizza and it can be ate over several days. I don’t go out - don’t go to events.

It’s great that you have never had to struggle, but you are making a shit ton of assumptions with zero knowledge.

My apartment has two rooms. One is a storage room, the other is the living room/bedroom. TV (a computer monitor hooked up to a PlayStation 4 for YouTube) is right in front of the pile of blankets and pillows where I sleep, and is on 24/7.

What really pisses me off is that I played Bibi in a real world tactics game at a convention five or so years ago. I did exactly what he has done, like I was spot on in predicted what he did. Escalate genocide in Gaza, cultivate connections with the extreme alt right in the US…

But they tried him/me for all of the financial crimes almost immediately and booted me from office and banned him/me from running or holding office again.

Like clearly something about his strategies are working?

Which revisionists?

Lost causers and other racists who want to pretend that the US’s mass enslavement, torture, rape and murder of Africans wasn’t unique.

Why is “muslim slavery” different to “slavery”?

There is not one thing that you can generically refer to as “Muslim slavery.” You can be specific - you can talk about Ottoman slavery, or slavery under the Abassids or something, but saying “Muslim slavery” is a dead give away that you’ve done absolutely zero thinking or research. It’s just a generic “other people had slaves too!” non sequitor.

Why are you trying to make arguments about a topic you clearly have no understanding of? Would you try to teach a calculus class if you had never taken an integral?

Good job revealing that you know absolutely nothing about US history.

My understanding segregation in the US was actually about white people keeping their kids away from integrated schools (which is a nuance, it wasn’t black school vs white school - and a lot of it was in the south). Slavery is NOT a colour based system.

Absolutely, categorically, objectively wrong.

I just saw an ad on Facebook recruiting volunteers to go through old housing contracts to find where they still explicitly prohibit Black folks from living in certain neighborhoods. It was based on Black versus White. In the schools which continue to be de facto segregated based on race to this fucking day, it is based on race.

Get your foot out of your mouth and pick up a basic history textbook.

You get that there is a pattern of shitty historical revisionists that bring up “Muslim slavery” to minimize US slavery? Which you just did?

Is “Islam” a universal world view? If you want to talk about Islam and slavery, at bare fucking minimum you need to talk about a specific area, time period and its strain of Islam. I have no idea what your vague illusion to “Europe” was even supposed to mean in the context of slavery.

I think you just need to recognize that you know next to nothing about this topic, and when one knows nothing, they need to shut the fuck up.

Slavery in the US WAS BASED ON THE COLOR OF PEOPLE’S SKIN. As was SEGREGATION.

Are you not capable of reading or do you just lack any knowledge of the basic history you are trying to argue about?

All slavery is bad

You are aware of the fact that there are different forms of slavery?

The chattel slavery of the antebellum US is uniquely bad in scale and brutality of oppression. This is clear to anyone who has spent more than five minutes studying the topic.

Living in the US means regularly encountering light skinned black people. The reason that most light skinned black people in the US have light skin is because of rape. Systemic rape. After the import ban of the early 1800’s, the U.S. bred its own slaves.

This arbitrary timeline doesn’t help

The point, which should be abundantly obvious, is how recent race based chattel slavery being ended is, and how it was present throughout the history of the US.

The fact is that the US was built on race based chattel slavery. The US is fundamentally structured on racial hierarchy, with Black individuals existing under White ones. This has been legally codified for the bulk of the US’s lifespan, and is a foundational part of the way the US is structured.

This could be similarly said about Brazil, which was also organized around race based chattel slavery, with Europeans importing slaves from Africa there as well.

“Europe” or “Islam” are irrelevant and too broad to be useful terms for historical analysis or at all relevant here.

“Obscenity” is kinda meaningless when you have a president that raped children.

Bit more complicated than that.

It’s not one-to-one, and the Romans didn’t just adopt Greek gods.

stay there for decades

Yeah. I read that book 20 years ago, and I can still vividly remember someone microwaving some meat and discovering that it was their own ass cheek, or a cis woman being accused of being trans and being sexually assaulted, someone falling into a spring at Yosemite, and of course, “Guts.”

He has a schtick with memorable twists, similar to Fight Club. I think Choke was the only novel of his I remember not really having a giant record scratch moment - Lullaby, Invisible Monsters, etc have huge twists. Like discovering the orgy heaven at the end of Haunted which really just serves to punch you in the gut - absolutely all of the fucked up things that the characters were doing to try to be famous was absolutely pointless, because everyone on Earth is killing themselves anyways.

The only fiction authors I can think of that have given me the same level of intense shock and revulsion would be Ágota Kristóf with the Notebook trilogy (which is spectacular and everyone should read) and Samuel Delany’s Hogg (which no one should read under any circumstances.)

The short story collection/sorta novel Haunted by Pahlanuik ends with the discovery that the planet Venus (I think? Might have been Jupiter) is essentially an eternal awesome orgy heaven, which everyone will eventually end up reincarnating on when they die. So everyone on earth essentially decides to kill themselves. Stores have to start locking up suicide kits because people will just take them in the store and die before paying.

That entire thing is fucked up. I read it somewhere around sophomore year of high school and existentially traumatized me. There are stories in there that somehow 4chan shock image level in just written words.

FATAL lets you generate a character with negative health that dies instantly. It’s funny to imagine someone popping into existence and then immediately realizing the setting and offing themselves.

You just went to an ash wednesday service? That was in February.

Yeah, it felt like it was sorta serving the same purpose as an Ash Wednesday, just putting some temporal difference to make it feel less Catholic. Have to say watching a passion play where Jesus is being played by a teenaged Andrew Tate fan is weird.

For wine- I have never seen anything non-red used before. It has ranged from red wine to non-alcoholic wine, to grape juice to red blackcurrant juice.

That’s what mystified me! I’ve read pamphlets by local churches arguing whether alcoholic wine is okay or not (one even arguing that the wine Jesus made at Canna was just grape juice, and that all references in the Bible to “wine” that are negative are talking about grape juice.)

But at least it’s gotta be red right? It’s supposed to be blood!

Even weirder perhaps was a teenager who was a pantomiming dumping the wafer in the juice like a cookie in milk!

Also, Mormons aren’t Christian.

Do you also classify JW’s, SDA’s and Christian Scientists as non Christian too?

How many of them aren’t alive that we don’t know of though?

The context is big here:

Gradually, the social and cultural imperialism that the missionaries brought to the islands developed into the exploitative commercial power that overthrew the Hawaiian monarchy in 1893.