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  • bus_factor@lemmy.worldtomovies@piefed.socialSisu
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    8 days ago

    I’ve watched The Man Without a Past several times, and I find it really interesting how the experience varies depending on the setting.

    The first time I saw it in a packed theater, and we were all laughing the whole time. As soon as someone let out a chuckle we were all laughing out loud, like a real life laugh track.

    Watching it with two friends at home was less laughing out loud and more chuckling and talking about how weird a movie this is.

    Both experiences were enjoyable in their own ways, just different.

    If I was to name a polar opposite of a Chris Tucker comedy it would be this film.






  • I don’t think we’re using the same definition of stigma.

    Stigma is a profound, unfair negative belief or stereotype attached to a person or group, causing shame, social rejection, and discrimination.

    I’m having a hard time making any of the stuff you’re saying make sense with that definition, and the whole word is inherently social.

    The fact is that a lot of people think it’s nasty to fuck your brother, and that you should stop fucking him when you realize you’re related to him. I see the nuance in this situation, but a lot of people don’t, and if they maintain the relationship they will have to deal with those people. It’s already hard enough to deal with homophobia without this on top.








  • Older Norwegians can be quite xenophobic, particularly in rural areas, and there was a jarring difference in how white Ukrainian refugees were welcomed in some communities compared to e.g. Somalians. Some mandatory “how to live in Norway” classes are also one-size-fits all in a way some will find offensive.

    A friend of mine who lived in Norway for a while found it quite offensive to be taught not to light a fire on the floor, for instance (someone from a less developed country did that decades ago, now everyone is told not to). There was apparently also commentary about smelly foods in apartment buildings. While considering your neighbors is a good way to fit in, it can be hard not to view this as an insult to your native cousine, and I also think that concern is rather dated.

    The biggest issue most immigrants face in Norway is that Norwegians come off as hard to approach. I don’t know if you’re familiar with the “Seattle freeze”, but I suspect that’s just stemming from a lot of ethnic Norwegians living there for decades. This can be overcome by learning more about Norwegian (and really Nordic) etiquette, though.

    The default assumption for a Norwegian is that your personal space should be respected. We don’t approach you unless you signal in some way that you want to be approached. This signaling is something all Norwegians do unconsciously, but for a foreigner not accustomed to the signals, it looks a lot like they’re getting the cold shoulder.

    Say for instance you’re waiting for some public transport. It’s been a while, no one is talking or even looking at each other, and you want to chat with someone. Just starting a conversation with someone would be seen as rude, since that is basically just imposing a conversation on them that they don’t want. A lot of Americans do this, and it is part of the reason Americans are viewed as abrasive (along with their constant bragging about America).

    What a Norwegian would do in that situation would be to throw out a statement to no one in particular. Something like a comment on how late the bus is, or the weather. If no one reacts, that means they don’t feel like chatting. But more often than not, someone will respond. You have now both signaled that you want to talk, and may pivot the conversation to whatever topics you feel like chatting about.

    That being said, the language barrier is also a real thing. While most Norwegians under the age of 50 speak perfect English and will pivot to it the second they hear an accent (not helpful if you’re trying to learn Norwegian, but they can’t help themselves), they will default to talking Norwegian. At college parties I’ve seen this often result in exchange students chatting in separate groups from the Norwegians. This can feel jarring compared to how people experience going to a country where they know the local language, like America.