Have you already tried installing it? All we need is literally someone to install the BE200 instead of the RZ616, try to boot the laptop with it, and see what happens
If you are using the BE200 right now and it works and it gets detected then it’s golden, and we know the BE200 works on AMD boards!
I just cannot find enough specs online. It seems to be supported on the standard m.2 form factor (encouraging, as you can get an Intel AX210 on an old T480 as of today, so these things generally have had a degree of retro-compatibility) but I can’t seem to find info on whether it is a stand-alone interface, or CNVi. In the former case - I think it is very very very likely to work, even on AMD variants. On the latter - requires 12th gen or higher, but it should work, assuming the CNVi interface hasn’t really changed in the 13th gen (which has so far been 12th gen but more efficient and no real changes)
There should be no harm in trying out. In the worst case, I’d try to Google to see if there is any known way to reset the CNVi firmware state on Insyde BIOS if you want to be super careful but I doubt it would cause permanent damage. On AMD there is really nothing bad it can do - there is no CNVi firmware to touch so the worst thing that can happen is it does not detected as a WiFi adapter and that’s the end of it.
No way around trying. Someone has to do it first.
Thank you! I’ve already had some people give me crap for not buying a Gen 3 instead, but all data I’ve found seems to indicate that during heavy use the performance difference with a 4x4 Nvme is noticeable, and the P41 is actually more efficient than the P31 because, while the power consumption is higher when it’s doing rw, it takes about half the time to complete said operation, and it is also much faster than the P31 to race to idle. Seems like the controller on the P41 Platinum is just very, very good for power consumption, with no known rivals (except the Solidgm P44 Pro, which has the same SK Hynix Aries controller and very similarly performing flash, but it’s €250 vs. €120, and for a margin of error difference, I won’t pay that much)
Prices are going up in Italy, and are nowhere near as low. $160? Try 100 euros more. :(
I snagged a SK Hynix P41 Platinum for my Framework 16 (2 TB) for €124. I hope I did well enough…
It’s basically whatever. The days of being able to play only some retro or indie games on integrated graphics are long gone
Starfield might have trouble running, but something like Cyperbunk is playable already.
Still I play Stardew Valley on my old laptop and I recommend it, whether you’re using an Intel iGPU or a RTX 4090! It’s maybe the best PC game ever made.
Frankly, regardless of what the optimization guide says, I would not use TLP. TLP is widely known in the Linux community for being very troublesome in this respect. Your CPU scheduler very likely does a much better job anyway, and TLP needs to be specifically fine-tuned for a machine to work well. Personally, I think the performance penalty you pay for TLP is not worth the battery life advantage. Sure, my laptop lasts longer on TLP, but it’s also slower - not rocket science, right? If you put the brakes on your CPU, it will run slower and draw less power. Seems about right.
I would try one of the following options:
power-profiles-daemons plus powertop and go work on some of the tunables to turn off features you don’t need to gain more powerAlso, make sure you are starting up Linux with mem_sleep_default=deep to minimize power drain during standby; although, as with all modern laptops except MacBooks nowdays, you should standby as little as you can and prefer a full shutdown whenever feasible.
The only thing that comes to mind is battery damage. Keeping your laptop constantly plugged in and heating up during intensive work / gaming sessions will speed up the rate at which the battery ages. However, it’s a Framework, so repairs are reasonably cheap and doable - so even this point has shakey ground to stand on.
Aside from that - there is no loss. I, too, use my laptop as a desktop replacement with a dock nowadays. Laptops have gotten so good that while surely desktops are still better, many users - even heavy ones - are fine with the performance output that laptops give you.