We added the chatgpt reference because we thought it would be funny, luminous talked about it somewhere already. We are pirates, and self-hosters. This is surely obvious. And we don’t have cash to splash around on corporate AI tokens.

Correction, three drama posts.

Well quite, but then he couldn’t have made three drama posts about it.

Please dont.

Our instances voted not to defederate from lemvotes, so votes are effectively public.

And? It’s in the public modlog, Rimu. Please, can you stop harassing me? How many hater posts are you gonna make this week exactly?

this was not a one-off experiment, this is an app they were proud to call their own.

It’s a python script that calls the lemmy/piefed api to grab comment histories. Calling it an “App” is quite a stretch. Luminous just likes pretty things, bless his cotton socks.

You are right about one thing, we will no doubt keep using the script to pull comment histories on the few occasions when we want a deep dive into someone’s profile.

For the record, we were never planning to use it as an automod or hook it to an LLM. You hallucinated that, ironically. That’s why we never announced it. It was nobody else’s business.

How it was actually intended to be used was as a tool to supplement the existing lemmy mod tooling, so that mods can make better, more informed decisions, in a more efficient way. How is it ever a bad thing to have all the relevant information to hand? And it’s being open sourced soon, so everyone can use it. Unlike some instances [nudge, nudge], we try to take a considered approach to user bans. And no, it’s no linked to an LLM in any way. If you chose to use one, you’d have to paste in the user history manually. But it also very useful just for skimming through, much faster than with Lemmy UI.

Also for the record, we do not use any form of automod with automated banning and never have. All ban decisions are made by a human mod or admin. Neither do we auto-scan user profiles for bad political takes, like Zionism. What we do do, is act on user reports, conduct an investigation and then make a mod decision. Nothing has changed in that respect, except now we have an extra tool to make sure we get the decision correct.

Finally, just because I included an LLM summary of the comment history in the public modlog, it does not logically follow that the ban occurred because of the LLM summary. It simply happened to correspond very well to my own manual review, which I have already explained to you. And I thought the summary did a much more comprehensive justification of the ban than I could have fitted in the modlog, so why not include it?

In conclusion, much ado about absolutely nothing. Again.

But there is no AI banning. All mod decisions are made after human review, and oftentimes after group discussion amongst the admin team.

Hardly, this was just a bait post. Rimu seems to be convinced if he flings enough mud, eventually some of it will stick. It’s all very petty.

So what’s the problem?

Lies.

Them’s fighting words, Rimu. That Zionist bastard was banned by me personally. I can hardly believe you are so tone deaf to be in here defending a piece of shit undisputable Zionist scumbag like samskara. Yes, I linked it in the ban reason, it was one of my first tests. And on that occasion it matched up beautifully with my own assessment, so why not?

That is exactly the case. I really can’t be bothered reading this whole fucking post, so I’m gonna just reply to you, since you sound reasonably sane.

First, it should be obvious to everyone that their post and comment histories are completely public, and accessible to anyone on the fediverse. There is zero privacy on the fediverse. Your comment histories have already been scraped a thousand times over by every big model out there.

All we have at the moment is a simple script, developed by one of our mods (who will be publishing it on codeberg soon), that any user can run that logs into lemmy using your own account, and downloads a set number (or time period) of comments into a text file. There is no abuse of admin powers going on, it’s just the stock lemmy/piefed api. This is massively faster than manually paging through comment histories on lemmy, and can make mod decisions more robust and more informed.

Using the text file, mods or admins can quickly search for keywords or whatever, using a simple text editor, or simply skim read it. Another option is to ingest it into an LLM to provide a summary. I tried doing that just a handful of times, for testing, but honestly I found it a bit cumbersome and who knows if the summary is actually accurate given the tendency for hallucinations? A couple of tests seemed consistent with my own assessment, and a couple were way off base.

That told me everything I need to know about how much to trust the summaries… very little. I honestly don’t think they are much of a value add, because you just can’t reliably trust the results. In any case, we have absolutely no plans to use llms for that on a regular basis, I just wanted to see what it came up with, and how well it matched a manual assessment.

And to also clarify, there is/was absolutely no automated scanning of users. The process is the same as always. We get a report, we investigate the report, and make a human mod decision. The only difference in this case is that the investigation can be done more efficiently, because we don’t have to go slowly paging through comments and searching through the Lemmy UI for the relevant data.

Obviously as well, no mod or admin is gonna download the entire comments history of a user unless it is a complicated report that is difficult to get to the bottom of from a quick look at the report. 90%+ of mod actions would never need that much detail.

The way OPs post was written was obviously designed from the ground up to stir up drama about AI use. Honestly, I don’t know why he’s still malding, but Rimu seems to be engaging in a lot of very bad faith hit pieces at the moment, designed solely to stir up drama, and directed at our instance. It’s really shitty behaviour.

Sure bro, keep on making shit up, I guess? By the way I have removed all the community bans for yourself and Skavau. You only had to ask btw. Might have saved a lot of pointless drama.

FYI OP has been home instance banned for a couple of weeks.

Yes, it sure would.

Exactly so.

Because your argument is rooted in Liberal Zionism.

No, it’s rooted in an understanding of how harmful majority stereotypes are. You completely ignored the bolded sentence which was the one I identified as antisemitic, and instead focused on the first sentence, which I agreed was fine.

80-90% of Jews in modern time are Zionists [FINE]. Zionism is the accurately representative of modern Judaism [ANTISEMITIC].

You could safely reword it to something like “The majority of Jews support Zionism”. That would be accurate.

Otherwise it’s no different from claiming something like “80% of gay men are promiscuous [made up statistic btw]” and then going on to state “Promiscuity is accurately representative of male homosexuality” as though it were true for every gay man.

Yes, exactly that. History is littered with dead empires though, so it’s not like things are in any way immutable, no matter how hard it might seem right now to imagine meaningful changes ever being made to the US political system.

But for some reason when you point out the same thing for Jews, somehow that’s wishing death upon all Jews. In that case why wouldn’t the same go for Zionist Christians being in danger if someone pointed out how deep the Zionist movement is within the (especially Evangelical) church?

Saying something like “An estimated 80-90% of Jews in modern time are also Zionists” with stats to back it up is perfectly fine to say, but it’s also worth acknowledging the fact that “10-20% of Jews are not Zionists”.

What you seem to be arguing is that, because Jews are majority Zionist, we should treat every Jewish person as though they are Zionist. The problematic part is in bold:

80-90% of Jews in modern time are Zionists. Zionism is the accurately representative of modern Judaism. Especially religious Judaism where virtually every present day synagogue is Zionist.

This is simply conflating Zionism with being Jewish as though they are the same thing. While the majority of Jews may well be Zionists (I don’t know whether the 80-90% figure is accurate or not, but let’s assume for the sake of argument it is), it’s still wrong imo to characterize all Jews as Zionists. Like another poster mentioned, there are still potentially millions of Jews who do not support Zionism, and/or who oppose Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians.

But the question is: do these synagogues not accurately represent Judaism if the overwhelming majority of Synagogues and Jewish religious institutions are Zionist?

No, they don’t - and you are making the same mistake again. Pro-Zionist Jewish synagogues cannot be said to represent Judaism as a whole, because not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Jews attend Temple. Why do you feel the need to stereotype all Jews, and all congregations as being the same? YDI.

They aren’t the worst, but they are fucking hopeless. The only reason they are currently getting votes right now is because of protest votes over Trump, not because anyone likes them. Almost half (48%) of Democrat voters currently disapprove of the way the Democratic party is run, and only 18% of all voters approve of their job performance - those are dire statistics.

Heading into a year with midterm elections, 18 percent of voters approve of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job, while 73 percent disapprove, which is a record low job approval rating for them, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll of registered voters released today.

Quinnipiac University first began asking this question in 2009 and the previous low was in July 2025 when 19 percent of voters approved of the job the Democrats in Congress were doing, while 72 percent disapproved.

In today’s poll, **among Democrats, 42 percent approve of the way members of their own party in Congress are handling their job, while 48 percent disapprove. **

Democrat voters on lemmy are, in general, much further to the left on almost every issue than the party they support. I think that’s why there is so much friction between Democrats and leftists on Lemmy, because folks tend to judge “the Democrats” on the basis of the official party establishment and policies, rather than on the (often very different) beliefs of the individual they are talking to.

Voters are split on which political party they think is more in touch with the concerns of most people in the United States, as 44 percent say the Democratic party, 42 percent say the Republican party, and 7 percent volunteer that there is no difference.

So the only reasonable conclusion here is that both major parties are incredibly unpopular, but Trump and the Republicans are currently the most unpopular (and yes, I agree they are even worse). And in a 2-party system like the US, even if both parties are horribly unpopular, one of them will win the presidency regardless. That’s a fucking terrible way to do democracy. All each party has to do to win is to be ever so slightly less shitty than the other party, but neither party is incentivized in any way to listen to the people they are supposed to represent. That’s part of the reason why simply voting ≠ democracy, necessarily.

You simply can’t vote your way out of this system without significant electoral changes, which the Democrats do NOT have have the balls for, because they know it would mean the end of the 2-party system. In fact, given these numbers, most people are voting against the policies of the party they hate most, not voting for the policies of the party they reluctantly voted for.

Source: https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3943

It isn’t. Your stance is how we get Zohran Mamdani condemning protests outside a Synagogue selling stolen Palestinian land. Pointing out the systemic Zionism in Jewish institutions doesn’t mean “wishing death upon all Jews.”

If a synagogue is engaged in Zionism like selling stolen Palestinian land, then they deserve to be condemned for it. But not because they are Jewish, because they are Zionists.