Longer than that.

Evacuations are just starting today, and most (I think all) countries are just doing two week quarantine.

Symptoms show up at latest at 6 weeks, but can be as soon as four days. And right before symptoms you become infectious.

The real danger is these people get infected during evac, don’t display infections till after quarantine, and then upon release become infectious and spread it. Especially since they’ll think they’re safe and are likely to immediately go out in public.

Even with expontial spread, 6 weeks from now we’ll still be “fine” in the present tense, but that doesn’t mean we’re not already fucked.

That’s why controlling the begining is so important and everyone on that ship needs a two month quarantine to be sure.

Signs and symptoms of HPS due to Andes virus appear 4 to 42 days after exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/about/andesvirus.html

Almost a month and a half time hivit symptoms post infection…

The issue is they’re putting everyone on planes, then quarantining them. But only for two weeks…

It’s been worse than usual lately, but I’m really struggling how people can’t see this is clearly not being handled correctly. Like, clearly if one person is infectious, they infect everyone on the flight, and then they may not even show symptoms until a month later…

https://apnews.com/article/hantavirus-cruise-ship-hondius-tenerife-1c43c66d2b0555cf946d9e57fc65f1d4

The Spanish flight was today (yesterday?) saying:

We would already be seeing it if it was that bad.

Is just wild bro, and what’s fucked is that’s the prevailing attitude, as a species we just don’t understand anything but immediate consequences anymore

A lot of people have no idea what’s happening and rationalize hormonal changes as “I’m wiser” because they’re older…

Even someone that’s legitimately mature who goes on T to be at the level of a teenager, is gonna act like a teenager.

I don’t think you understand how big of a deal testorone is and how much it effects someone.

Do you personally know anyone dumb enough to do this or “peptides” (basically steroids)?

Because I do, so I’m speaking from ancedotal experience as well as the academic research. You’re just massively underestimating testorone.

Article does elaborate that it’s the Andes variant (the only one that does human to human) but I don’t think it mentioned the 40% mortality rate when it’s a respiratory infection, paywall kicked in before I skimmed it all.

But anyways, journalist really need to specify “Andes variant” in headlines. People are just googling “hantavirus” and no one is freaking out enough.

All it takes is one infected person going home and spreading it and we’re fucked. Especially since it’s coming from a cruise ship, so it’s already people that don’t take hygiene seriously, or they wouldn’t be going on cruise ships.

A modern typhoid Mary traveler would be a huge deal especially with long incubation periods and how long of a range infection can spread.

Like, there’s already someone that caught it walking within four feet of a table that had an infected person eating at it. If one of these fucks gets on an airplane while infectious, they’re gonna infect everyone on the plane, and 4-6 weeks later they’ll infect everyone they interact with

We’re insanely lucky we caught it on that ship, but we should have quarantined the whole fucking thing immediately.

This could make COVID look like nothing.

40% mortality, when dealing with isolated cases.

For isolated cases COVID mortality was well under 1%, deaths didn’t rack up until hospitals were overwhelmed…

If we start at 40% mortality with adequate hospital care, it’s gonna essentially be 100% mortality if hospitals are already full.

As much as people love to talk about them, they weren’t how things got fixed.

Like, by the time guillotines come out, its already over.

What the actual fix was, was the masses understanding that the wealthy were fine if everyone else starved in the streets. And that if they didn’t do anything about that fact, nothing was gonna change.

That turned protests into riots, and made the people guarding the oligarchs realize the oligarchs were fine with them dying too.

When they flipped, they just stopped showing up to risk their lives for one more paycheck. Every single person that doesn’t show up changes the mental math everyone else does the next morning.

To get anything to change, the people guarding the oligarchs need to feel like they’re drastically outnumbered and outgunned, that whatever they’re being paid isn’t enough, because they have a legitimate chance of death for picking that side.

We’ll never scare the oligarchs enough to change shit, they have too much too lose. They’ll just hire more thugs and build more bunkers.

So we make the thugs too scared to stand between oligarchs and an armed mob, and suddenly there’s plenty of time to build some guillotines or park jets, because no one is there to stop us from storming mansions and putting oligarchs in chains.

Anyways, the method doesn’t matter, what matters is setting the example to following generations that this is what happens with rampant wealth inequality. That this isn’t an “if” it’s a “when”.

Why does it need a goal?

Like, I’ve lived thru a lot of social media, really all of it since 56k modems

Before you know it everyone, including people not here yet, will talk about how much they miss “the good old days”. Enjoy it for what it is now.

This isn’t a billionaire backed platform they blows up overnight due to marketing, it’s going to be very slow growth.

If it takes off, awesome.

But the best way to make it take off, is just to use it and enjoy it. It’s Kevin Costner growth, if we build a better alternative to corpo media (by using it for it’s intended purpose which generates content) then people who stumble over here will stay.

When it reaches critical mass it starts a feedback loop. Once there’s “enough” content people won’t just also visit the fediverse, they’ll only visit the fediverse.

As much as I’d hate to say it and I know I’d never use it, what the fediverse really needs is a video based TikTok equivalent. I’m honestly shocked there isn’t one of those yet, if it wasn’t for AI taking all the data storage, we’d probably have one by now. I’d hate to think of how much storage that would rack up.

They’re being told at 40 they have “low T” compared to a fucking 20 year old…

Which, yeah, no shit.

What’s really bad is by that point the hormone that causes male pattern baldness is also essentially turbocharging what you have to compensate, like making crack out of cocaine.

So a 40 year old male pattern baldness juicing their T to the level of a 20 year old has an effective level much higher.

Even without that, the T just makes you feel 20, you’ve still got 20 years of accumulated damage, you just don’t feel it. Not just the muscularskeletal system, but other stuff like cardiac health as well.

People just can’t handle the fact that they’re not 20 anymore, in the context of midlife crisis, of course a lot of men will convince themselves this makes them 20 again. The problem is our health care system giving it out like candy to make a profit.

Stealth mode

This is just a song for people who love spelling…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNHCkuGrAl4

Don’t get discouraged by how many of these keep coming up, and that “they got away with it”.

They’re “getting away with it” present tense, but forensic accounting is a thing.

We can’t just pull a Biden again with the PPE loan fraud and pretend it didn’t happen. We need to put the effort in and hold these people accountable.

Did they blow the money?

Seize all their propert, make it a nondischargeable judgement, garnish their wages (after they get out of prison).

White collar crime keeps happening because no one is ever held accountable and it’s literally killing our society.

A progressive president in 2028 will have thousands of examples to show this open corruption is no longer acceptable. Added benefit it’s not just people with Rs by their name doing these grifts. So fuck the neoliberals, if they’re doing less blatant shit like this too, prosecute them as well and make room for a Dem who will support the people.

Going after political corruption like this regardless of party is an obvious win

Fuck, “drain the swamp” is one of the biggest lies that got trump elected, that’s how desperately the people want this at an end.

Norovirus is normal, it went thru my boot camp division. Its just the normal “cruise ship flu” that always happens and sucks.

Hantavirus is not normal, especially the Andres variant that was on that other cruise ship. (Edit: it’s “normal” as in it’s the reason you have to wear masks and gloves when dealing with mice, because catching it is incredibly serious even tho most rodents don’t have it. The version that can go from human to human, is incredibly rare, and incredibly dangerous.)

That fucker has like 40% lethality when respiratory (how it seems to be travelling human to human) and while transmission window is short, just walking withing 4 feet of someone whose not even exhibiting systems is enough to infect.

I can’t remember the incubation time for sure, but I think liken4-6 weeks?

And you just fucking know when the Americans from that ship come back, they’re not going to have to do quarantine or anything. CDC has announced they don’t have to quarantine

Have you even looked into it?

Or are you wanting for Lil Bobby Kennedy to put the raccoon penis down and investigate?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/05/09/hantavirus-cruise-passengers-will-disembark-sunday-latest-updates/?streamIndex=0

This isn’t “nothing” and honestly it’s weird more people aren’t freaking out.

Really good interview going over why shit is so fucked right now.

And a reminder that people like her have been ringing alarm bells for 30+ years that all of this was an eventuality.

It’s not like no one couldn’t see this coming.

A few days later, a group of Indiana lawmakers who rejected the president’s push to redistrict the state lost their primaries, demonstrating Trump’s continuing hold over the Republican base

Shouldn’t listen to anyone who doesn’t understand that…

Those races were insanely close while being low turnout, and trump still didn’t replace enough to change the vote on it

He’s pissed off a bunch of old-school Republican voters who are tired of his shit, and they’re likely to stay home.

Swapping out decades of experienced shit again who knew how to abuse the system for a couple of chucklefucks that blindly agree with trump will backfire in the general.

I habitually overestimate people, but this is as clear as day…

Journalists (at least, out of everyone) should be noticing that

I mean this completely seriously:

Not with that attitude.

Maybe without that attitude it’s still true, but we need more people than AOC even if they’re not “as good”

You have all sorts of positive and negative symptoms,

Yes, all the wonderful positives of checks notes schizophrenia…

Cool…

I do want to congratulate you on making a comment longer than five words, best of luck in all your future endeavors.

I 100% get not committing to run right now, it would be stupid to do so.

“In this op-ed that Bezos paid for in The Washington Post, there was a veiled threat — it was the elite saying if you want this job, you just stepped out of line,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever.”

But I sure as fuck hope she realizes becoming president is our best shot at that.

Shed drive down ballot races like Obama did, but isn’t as cocky and obsessed with personal power to ignore the DNC after winning like Obama did. Shed name a progressive chair.

Bringing in a wave of progressives and putting the party firmly on the progressive side of the divide is absolutely the biggest thing she (or anyone) can do to get us single payer healthcare.

So like I said, hopefully she’s planning to run, just smart enough to not say it yet.

His entire argument is predicated on the assumption that fossil fuels would need to be used as a primary source…

That’s not true, and it’s disappointing he didn’t realize that.

Other planets may very well not have a large reserve of fossil fuels, and if it wasn’t carbon based, it might not matter anyways

Hell, it’s just as likely that type of climate change would be beneficial as harmful to hypothetical aliens.

He keeps saying it’s not a “ladder” with only one path, but is insistent that every other civilization took the same fossil fuel shortcut as us rather than advancing slowly enough that they’d realize consequences before it was too late.

Just because we fucked our planet up, doesn’t mean every one else did, it doesn’t even mean anyone else had the same opportunity to fuck it up as bad as we did.

We can’t extrapolate from post industrial revolution, because not everyone went thru something as damaging as that. Not even every human culture went through that, the ones who didn’t were just conquered by the ones who didn’t or hadn’t yet.

It’s not an inevitablity.

Why do you think all these people were driven by cynicism?

Because if you look at any technological or scientific breakthrough…

The person who broke through, did so because they were got frustrated everyone else is wrong…

Look at string theory right now, one person finally got pissed off enough that they spoke up and said it was all nonsense…

Everyone stayed quite for a bit, then the entire physics community admitted it was wrong and we’ve wasted decades.

The bulk of the community knew it didn’t add up, but because they werent driven by spite or frustration, they never spoke up. They were driven by curiosity, so the fuetherest they were ever going to get is “maybe it works if we do this”.

It takes someone who doesn’t give a fuck what others think, to go against the grain hard enough and say what they know will catch a lot of flak, be cause that’s what right.

Them making all that noise attracts the attention of “the curious”

If you still don’t understand this, or ever have questions about anyone else. Ask someone who was “curious” enough to check if I’m right. I won’t see any more questions from you.

Logically it makes sense.

Wealthy and powerful people are always likely to be “first” in stuff like this, because they’re the ones with the resources to fight.

But wealthy and powerful people are almost always pieces of shit.

Them being gay isn’t why this happened, that didn’t make them monsters.

The normal effects of being wealthy and powerful for decades fucks you up, regardless of who you were before.

The way to help them, is to not allow anyone to achieve this power of wealth/power. If they were capable of realizing that themselves, they’d give most of that wealth away before it changed them.

But some people need the government to do it for them.

It’s for their own good, but it’s for our own good too.