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  • Thank you for the feedback! I have to admit I wasn’t aware of how important port forwarding is. Stepping back I guess I’ll need a better way of gauging how important specific features are to people. I’ll have to think about this a little bit more…

    Your question about security is something that I think about a lot. I don’t think of LAN & internet as significantly different in terms of security. I also worry about potentially malicious LAN devices attempting to exploit local DNS, DHCP or web UI. I’ve profesionally worked on anti-malware and I’ve seen malware preloaded on new phones by factory workers & resellers, suspiciously exploitable flaws in stock firmware (which I guess was a backdoor with plausible deniability), fake monetization SDKs that are actually botnets (so application developers have been unknowingly attaching bots to their apps). There is also the problem of somebody gaining the physical access to your LAN network (for example by connecting a prepared device to an ethernet port for a couple of seconds). While those things may seem far fetched and commercial routers ignore them, I’d like to do something better here.

    In terms of preventing C++ footguns, I’m relying on compilation arguments (-fstack-protector, -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2), safe abstractions (for example std::unique_ptr, std::span, std::array…), readability (single-threaded, avoiding advanced primitives or external libraries) & patience (I think that time pressure is the biggest source of bugs).

    In terms of protocol level security, so far I’ve been able to secure the update path (so that MITM attackers can’t inject malicious code). The web UI is a big problem for me because to do any privileged operations I’ll have to authenticate the user first. Firstly I’m not exactly sure how to even do that. Password seems like the best option but I’m still trying to think of something better. There is this new WebAuthn thing which I’ll have to look into. Second issue with web UI is that I need to protect the authentication channel. This means that local web UI will need TLS. And this in turn means that I’ll have to somehow obtain a TLS cert somehow. Self-signed certs produce nasty security warnings. Obtaining one from LetsEncrypt seems easy - assuming the router has public IP (which may not always be the case). But even if I obtain a LetsEncrypt cert, any LAN device can do the same thing, so the whole TLS can still be MITM-ed. It would be really great if web browsers could “just establish encrypted channel” and not show any security warnings along the way…


  • So you’re not remapping the source ports to be unique? There’s no mechanism to avoid collisions when multiple clients use the same source port?

    Regarding port collisions. In Gatekeeper there are both - a Symmetric NAT & Full Cone NAT. Both are used in tandem. I didn’t mention the former before. Symmetric NAT takes precedence over Full Cone NAT when a connection has already been established (we observed the remote host and have a record of which LAN IP they’re talking to). You’re 100% correct that without Symmetric NAT there would be port collisions and computers in LAN would fight over ports. I actually started out with just the Full Cone NAT only (where collisions can happen) and used it on my network for a couple of weeks. It seemed to work in my home environment but I was a little worried about potential flakiness so I’ve implemented a backup mechanism eventually.

    Full Cone NAT implies that you have to remember the mapping (potentially indefinitely—if you ever reassign a given external IP:port combination to a different internal IP or port after it’s been used you’re not implementing Full Cone NAT) (…)

    Ah, I also recalled something like that! What you’re saying about NAT assignments being permanent & requiring multiple IPs to avoid collisions. I think there was a course at my university or some Cisco course that taught that… I haven’t been able to find any online sources that would confirm those definitions today but I also remember something along the lines of what you’re describing. I have no idea what happened with those terms. Maybe the “permanent assignments” don’t make much sense in wireless networks WiFi devices can appear and disappear at any time?

    Edit: I found it - the proper term for this was “Static NAT” (as opposed to “Dynamic NAT” where the redirections expire).

    (…) but not that the internal and external ports need to be identical.

    Right. Port preservation is not a strictly necessary part of Full Cone NAT. It’s a nice feature though. I guess the technical classification would be “Full Cone NAT with port preservation”.

    (If you do have sufficient external IPs the Linux kernel can do Full Cone NAT by translating only the IP addresses and not the ports, via SNAT/DNAT prefix mapping. The part it lacks, for very practical reasons, is support for attempting to create permanent unique mappings from a larger number of unconstrained internal IP:port combinations to a smaller number of external ones.)

    This is very cool indeed. I didn’t knew that. Thanks!



  • In terms of types of users I agree with what you’re saying but I also think that there are some shades of gray in between. There are people who love to tinker and would manually configure every service on their router, compiling everything from scratch, reading manuals, understanding how things work (they’ll probably choose dnsmasq, systemd-networkd, graphana over Gatekeeper). In my experience this approach is pretty exciting for the first couple of years & then gradually becomes more and more troublesome. I think Gatekeeper’s target audience are the people who would like to take ownership of their network (and have some theoretical understanding) but don’t want to fully dive into the rabbit’s hole and configure everything manually.

    In terms of problem solved: I agree that Gatekeeper solves a similar problem. I think it’s different from those projects because it tightly integrates all of the home gateway functions. While this goes against the Unix philosophy, I think it creates some advantages:

    1. Possibility of cross-cutting features.
    2. Better performance (lower disk usage, lower RAM usage, lower CPU load).
    3. Seamless integration.

    Functions of home routers are conventionally spread out over many components (kernel & a bunch of independently developed userspace tools) which talk to each other. Whenever we want to create a cross-cutting feature (for example live traffic graphs) we must coordinate work between many components. We need to create kernel APIs to notify userspace apps about new traffic, create userspace apps to maintain a record of this traffic & a web interface to display it. It’s difficult organizationally. In a monolith, where all code is in one place, such cross-cutting features can be developed with less friction.

    From the performance point the conventional approach is also less efficient. The tools must talk to each other. Quite often through files (logs & databases). It’s wearing down SSDs & causing CPU load that could be otherwise avoided. A tightly integrated monolith needs to write files only periodically (if ever) - because all data can be exchanged through RAM.

    From the complexity standpoint the conventional approach is also not great because each of the tools needs to know how to talk with the others. This is usually done by administrator, configuring every service according to its manual. When everything is built together as a monolith, things can “just work” and no configuration is necessary.

    Edit: Please don’t be offended by my verbosity. From your question I see that you know this stuff already but I’m also answering to the fresh “selfhosted” audience :)