for anyone who wants to offer actual advice: its a lenovo thinkpad t450 with a soldered i5-5300U that hits over 90C when running cargo compiles. I have changed the thermal paste and it didn’t do much.

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    I’ve started looking more into getting an ARM laptop. I know a bloke who has an M1 Macbook and it has indescribable battery life without sacrificing performance. Apple is out of the question due to their walled garden, though (I don’t want to get sucked into their ecosystem and end up with an iPhone, Apple Watch, and who knows what else), so Snapdragon X series it is for me.

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      About the Qualcomm processors, I’d advise you to wait. There’s a lot of hype going around, and apparently, it isn’t as good as Apple’s ARM processor. Honestly, AMD processors are almost what you’re looking for - low-power processors, highly performant iGPU, bang for buck. In fact, if you look at the newer processors, they also provide power-efficient chips, which is almost similar to the big.LITTLE in Arm - Zen4, paired alongside Zen4c. This pattern is also visible with their newer Strix Point - having both the Zen5 and the Zen5c chiplets.

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        Apparently, it isn’t as good as Apple’s ARM processor

        Not from what my searching shows, the X1P curbstomps the M1.

        AMD processors are almost what you’re looking for - low-power processors, highly performant iGPU, bang for buck

        I’ve used a laptop with a (i think it was) Ryzen 5 5500u and it was the complete opposite of that. Lags on midnight protocol (game), it cost almost 1000euros, aka the same price as the Surface Pro 11 here, and it hit peaks of 101C, averaging at 70.

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              Shouldn’t you be comparing newer processors? The M4 was released in 2024. Comparing it to top-of-the-line X1E-84-100 (X1E-00-1DE benchmarks aren’t available yet, I believe), the M4 destroys them. I mean, we can debate about the price, if we just limit ourselves to an Arm architecture, but a 12-core, 24-thread CPU getting it’s ass whopped by a 9-core, 18-thread CPU tells us clearly who is in the win here.

              Oh, and mind you, thermals for the Qualcomm processors are far terrible than the x86_64 CPUs. The AMD processors, especially the 7040/8040 is the clear winner here, when it comes to price-vs-performance - also being equipped with some of the best iGPUs. Intel’s efficiency cores are garbage - they gave up on long-sough processor technologies, like hyper-threading, for instance, and then there’s this oxidation fiasco, so I’d not recommend them anymore. The M4 does really well for a premium-segment processor - obviously, it is expensive, but it is really good at what it does.

              The X1, along with poor emulation support, terrible thermals, and lack of software support isn’t the best choice, unless you’re okay with going all-Linux - which again, and let me tell you, Rust support for Arm is bad. I’ve tried using a Jetson Nano, it was the worst Linux experience I’ve had - yes, Nvidia sucks balls, but Arm isn’t that easy to work on with.

              As a RISC fanboy, x86_64 is still a good pick, at least if you’re not a dev and a tinkerer. There’s a lot of work pending, even after the existence of Arm PCs for almost a decade.

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                Thing is everywhere i look says otherwise, reviees say the SP11 is quiet and doesnt overheat, and is quite performant. Plus, my main use case is going to be development, which i cant find anyone writing about, but I’ve heard the DX is on par for Windows. Rust doesnt seem to have issues with ARM as you have stated the heaviest I’ll be running in games is going to be ULTRAKILL at most, which runs on a T450 smoothly so there is minimal doubt the x86 emulator can’t take it. I’m not keen on buying an Apple laptop, but I’ll consider it should a guy I know who has an M1 Macbook convince me well enough, and if I’m buying x86 again its either a newer Thinkpad (as in, not with a slow CPU and seemingly a long lifetime with a precious user). I’m increasingly eyeing up the Thinkpad P1 Gen 1/2 ( I know another guy who had one and even in 2024 it would RIP AND TEAR UNTIL ITS DONE ), is it still good?

                Also, since I feel I haven’t dismissed your “M4 is better” point: There isnt an M4 Macbook yet, and the M3 is beyond my price range, costing over 3k€. The SP11 is 1.25k€ for comparison 1, 2, 3, while an M1 Mac is 1k€.

                Finally, a small side note: you haven’t really “backed” or provided sources for any of your arguments, whereas I’ve linked sources for as many statements as I can. If you want, I can also provide screenshots of my friends’ testimonies)

                EDIT: Weird, you stated the M4 makes the X1 bite the curb, but that doesn’t seem to be the case[X1] [M4]