TERRIFYING!!! 😱😱😱

When appearing, he looks fierce in order to frighten the conjurer or to see if they are courageous. The conjurer must be brave, and hazel wand in hand, must draw a triangle by striking towards the south, east, and upwards, then commanding Beleth into it by means of some conjurations.

kitty-cri-screm “FEAR ME MORTAL!”

Christians of Hexbear, pls explain?

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    then commanding Beleth into it by means of some conjurations.

    My apologies to the Goëtians, but I’ll never understand the human desire for “commanding” entities, “giving orders” to them as if humans were “superior” to them. We aren’t. I mean, they’re cosmic forces, predating humanity, how’s a mere human being supposedly “capable” of suppressing the force of a cosmic force? Maybe it’s because I’m a demonolater and I see entities (especially Lilith) as infinitely superior to anything mundane. When I do a ritual, it’s for worshipping the entity, for delivering my own essence to them (to Her), not for “giving orders” or “command” them, because I’d be certainly crushed by them way before I could ever think of controlling them. It’s a matter of being spiritually humble. I’m a Lilith worshipper, and I can’t even think of giving Her any order: it’s the exact opposite, She’d give me orders for me to follow, She’s way stronger than me.

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      heh. Check out this liberal who thinks a personification of the human faults of hedonism and stubbornness are a power stronger than them and willing gives their life to those impulses claiming that they are an outside force.

      Lilith is a demon of independence to a fault and you grovel at her like an abused dog. That is hilarious. You would disgust her if she existed.

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        Lilith is a demon of independence to a fault and you grovel at her like an abused dog. That is hilarious. You would disgust her if she existed.

        Holy shit I thought that comment was cringe but you didn’t have to go that hard, they’ll never recover

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        Honestly while I don’t see the lib nature of that comment, that was beautiful. It’s basically bullying, but it was also beautiful. Besides, from the sound of their comment, they genuinely like being bullied anyways.

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          “Cosmic Forces, predating humanity” is an inherently idealistic and non-materialist statement. Lilith as outlined in occult pracitces is a supreme force of independence and individuality like Cartman screaming “wha eva I do what I want.” basically just peak liberalism.

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            “Cosmic Forces, predating humanity” is an inherently idealistic and non-materialist statement.

            Isn’t that also… basically most if not all religions and spirituality? Not disagreeing (it is the “opium of the masses” after all) but such idealism/metaphysical beliefs don’t necessarily prevent someone from materialistic analysis or being a comrade inherently, and there are many examples of such.

            Lilith as outlined in occult pracitces is a supreme force of independence and individuality like Cartman screaming “wha eva I do what I want.” basically just peak liberalism.

            This is a better point, but even then independence and individuality can be expressed, acted upon, and interpreted in different ways as well (though it almost always is liberalism). More than that though, dismissing people who believe in or like the occult (as someone who doesn’t believe in it) or in one deity/spirit/abstract cosmic concept or another doesn’t strike me as any different from doing the same to those following other religions/spiritual beliefs.

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      how’s a mere human being supposedly “capable” of suppressing the force of a cosmic force?

      Guns? Iron? Salt? Do you want an exhaustive list I have one somewhere. Silver, aluminum probably would work if anyone thought to try it, dogs obviously, rosewater, waving your vagina at the devil is pretty reliable, various roosters, red and white strings in assorted configurations, sandalwood, fire, turning around three times. I could go on for quite a while if you give me some time to dig out some old books.

      My apologies to the Goëtians, but I’ll never understand the human desire for “commanding” entities, “giving orders” to them as if humans were “superior” to them.

      The main practical utility is pranking your neighbors and, I shit you not, per the Hammer of the Witches, stealing pies.