Considering this group you’re pointing out wasn’t big enough to make Harris win maybe Democrats should focus inward on their own failures instead of playing stupid ass finger pointing games with people left of them. Y’all lost despite your stance on genocide, not because of it unfortunately.
Many stayed home, how can you quantity their reasoning? They’re absent, but what you can say is for those that are capable of voting, didn’t care much they trump could win.
Well instead of pretending it’s unknowable we can look at the demographics of who voted for Biden in 2020 but refused to vote for Harris.
It was Boomers, genX, and older Millennials. Who were white men/women and hispanic men. Most likely stayed home because these groups have well known deeply rooted misogyny.
Young people, gaza protesters, didn’t vote, the same as young people vote every election.
You’re allowed to go look at the Democrat voter demographics in 2020 and 2024.
Democrats had less votes total then 2020, and the largest groups that stayed home proportionally compared to last election were white men/women and hispanic men. And misogyny/machismo culture are the only thing in common between those groups that has relevancy, because Kamala had the exact same policies that Biden did as a white man and they had no problem coming out to vote for him.
That’s the most accurate explanation i have been able to come up with after combing through the data last year.
The protesters were almost all younger than 30s, and that group voted almost the exact same as the last like 15 elections. They barely vote at all. It just doesn’t add up at all for that to be it.
If you’re doing a test and asking people to take vanilla or chocolate ice cream, or none, you cannot know the preference of the none’s.
You can guess, based on looking at their past dessert choices, but you cannot know.
Edit if you extended the experiment to say everyone will be served, and if you don’t pick you get vanilla, the most you can possibly say about the none’s is that they aren’t offended by having vanilla picked for them. (Assume everyone will eat the food. It’s the only possible food before starvation or something)
Nothing will ever be conclusive without being omniscient.
You are the one who decides if you keep moving the bar or stick to accepting what we can know instead of using speculation to justify hating your neighbors.
I absolutely agree. It is horrific to see people going through the most dehumanizing of treatment by the Democratic party getting screamed down by white moderate liberals for not falling in line exactly as the Zionist machine wants them to.
More like “we fed you the result of your own actions and now you don’t like the way it tastes cuz you got worse than Harris”
No matter what else happens the fact will never change that you could have picked Harris and actually saved Gaza. But instead you pretended game theory wasn’t real and let it be destroyed by trump.
you could have picked Harris and actually saved Gaza.
Nope. This analysis is unrealistic. I would accept “Harris would have been tougher on Netanyahu,” but under Biden, an estimate of over 200,000 Gazans have died, and Harris showed no signs of diverging from his policy. NO outcome “saves” Gaza.
Considering this group you’re pointing out wasn’t big enough to make Harris win maybe Democrats should focus inward on their own failures instead of playing stupid ass finger pointing games with people left of them. Y’all lost despite your stance on genocide, not because of it unfortunately.
Many stayed home, how can you quantity their reasoning? They’re absent, but what you can say is for those that are capable of voting, didn’t care much they trump could win.
How can you? and do you think chastising is gonna be the magic solution to fix it?
I didn’t you silly goose.
And I’d call it less “chastisement” and more identifying my enemy: those comfortable with trump
Well instead of pretending it’s unknowable we can look at the demographics of who voted for Biden in 2020 but refused to vote for Harris.
It was Boomers, genX, and older Millennials. Who were white men/women and hispanic men. Most likely stayed home because these groups have well known deeply rooted misogyny.
Young people, gaza protesters, didn’t vote, the same as young people vote every election.
I mean, the endorsement of war criminals didn’t help.
Correlation/causation.
Without hard stats you can’t define their reasoning. You can only determine what they are accepting of by not participating.
That said, I certainly won’t argue against that group being quite misogynic
You’re allowed to go look at the Democrat voter demographics in 2020 and 2024.
Democrats had less votes total then 2020, and the largest groups that stayed home proportionally compared to last election were white men/women and hispanic men. And misogyny/machismo culture are the only thing in common between those groups that has relevancy, because Kamala had the exact same policies that Biden did as a white man and they had no problem coming out to vote for him.
That’s the most accurate explanation i have been able to come up with after combing through the data last year.
The protesters were almost all younger than 30s, and that group voted almost the exact same as the last like 15 elections. They barely vote at all. It just doesn’t add up at all for that to be it.
I get it. But that’s not conclusive.
If you’re doing a test and asking people to take vanilla or chocolate ice cream, or none, you cannot know the preference of the none’s.
You can guess, based on looking at their past dessert choices, but you cannot know.
Edit if you extended the experiment to say everyone will be served, and if you don’t pick you get vanilla, the most you can possibly say about the none’s is that they aren’t offended by having vanilla picked for them. (Assume everyone will eat the food. It’s the only possible food before starvation or something)
Nothing will ever be conclusive without being omniscient.
You are the one who decides if you keep moving the bar or stick to accepting what we can know instead of using speculation to justify hating your neighbors.
I absolutely agree. It is horrific to see people going through the most dehumanizing of treatment by the Democratic party getting screamed down by white moderate liberals for not falling in line exactly as the Zionist machine wants them to.
More like “we fed you the result of your own actions and now you don’t like the way it tastes cuz you got worse than Harris”
No matter what else happens the fact will never change that you could have picked Harris and actually saved Gaza. But instead you pretended game theory wasn’t real and let it be destroyed by trump.
Nope. This analysis is unrealistic. I would accept “Harris would have been tougher on Netanyahu,” but under Biden, an estimate of over 200,000 Gazans have died, and Harris showed no signs of diverging from his policy. NO outcome “saves” Gaza.
Well, I agree that NO outcome in the US election could save Gaza.
Probably for different reasons than you, though.
In any case you will find a lot more abstainers on lemmy.ml or hexbear, if your goal is to actually reach a significant number of them
which? sorry i can’t read minds and i wasn’t picking up your subtext :P