• Ingwerperium
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    China does not claim to be a fully communist society yet. Official ideology describes the country as being in a long-term developmental phase of socialism; communism is portrayed as a future goal. However, if they continue as they have been treating people like mere numbers, keeping them in poverty under total control, while billionaires amass wealth they will never achieve that anyway. In a society that ideologically advocates for overcoming class distinctions and capitalist exploitation, enormous private fortunes exist. Entrepreneurs like Jack Ma have at times amassed wealth running into the billions. At the same time, the Party controls key sectors of the economy and can exert massive pressure on companies. That transitional phase has gone spectacularly wrong. That is not how communism is defined. Private property is accepted only as long as it remains compatible with the Party’s political interests. This is very convenient for the government: it can harness the productivity and innovation of capitalism without adopting the political power structures of a liberal political system.

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      Their own brand of capitalism is one tied to a penultimate patriotic goal, where all enterprises are convinced by the Party they are working to achieve supremacy by 2049 where by that time, the Mainland topples and humiliates what they see as American hegemony and exceptionalism, while expecting the rest of the world – including developing countries who are now tied to the Mainland through heavy imports – to acknowledge its being figuratively the Middle Kingdom.

      This is the China that can say “no”, and a book that once vigorously supported the idea of confronting American hegemony and was banned briefly, is now cashing in on the winnings as its authors are seen as prophetic.

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      Oh Jesus Christ. They’re as communist as you can humanly get currently. I hate this crap where people go “well xyz isn’t full communist”. No country can or will be 100% communist, socialist, or capitalist. It’s basically impossible. They can claim whatever they want. Half the shit they say is made up anyways.

      But. they are at communist as possible.

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        No they aren’t. Try actually reading about how their economy works. The whole thing is a scam to keep their form of state capitalism.

        The people who wanted to make China communist, as in people having collective ownership over the economy, were thrown out of power by the Dengists who ostensibly believed that they needed to use capitalism to build towards socialism. Except they’ve never done anything to actually implement socialism. In China everyone is still a wage cuck just like everywhere else.

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          Have you considered, although everyone is still a wage cuck, the government is popular and therefore “proletarian socialist”? (/s)

      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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        But. they are at communist as possible.

        Educate yourself. China is de-facto the biggest and most successful capitalist economy on this planet, under a totalitarian regime that uses “communist” in their name like televangelists use “christian”.