• fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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    4 months ago

    I gotta ask the “I’m not a fan of Biden” crowd. Why? And not who he is, or what he hasn’t done. What’s something you don’t like that he has done in this presidency, and then hasn’t tried to correct?

    I would then ask, did you watch the entire State of the Union?

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      4 months ago

      He keeps supplying Israel with weapons. He didn’t challenge the government and fully cancel student loans. Marijuana isn’t legalized yet. He hasn’t changed tax cuts. He Essentially moved the whole democratic party right on the border and immigrants. He originally was suppose to be a one term president.

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        OK but US military support for Israel hasn’t dropped below $3,000,000,000 since 1975 (source: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts )

        Why aren’t you mad at Trump for militarily supporting Israel? Why aren’t you upset at Obama? Why no anger for Bush? Was Clinton’s sax solo THAT good? What about Bush, Reagan, Carter and Ford? ALL of them, without exception, have supplied weapons to Israel.

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          None of them are actively president.

          Nor were any of them so during such a globally recognised instance of genocide. Many people have been disliking the US for supporting Israel for so long, but its gone from apartheid South Africa to Nazi Germany in the past few months, so the reaction and need for adequate response from the US is far higher than under previous presidents.

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          I was upset at our military funding under Obama and Trump also. I Couldn’t do anything about Bush, Clinton and half of Obama since they don’t let children vote even though I had to be an adult for 2 years under Obama’s reign with no representation. 80% of America’s military budget could be cut if not more. I have been against Israel funding since 2008 despite being 16. I have been against the military industrial complex since then too.

          Previous presidents hold no power right now. I have no choice but to vote democratic if I don’t want people to lose rights in my state. I am lucky I can vote 3rd party against Biden and not worry that Trump will win my state. So I can at least protest vote a little bit.

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            To be sure, none of us really know what it’s like to be in the office of president, but I would be surprised if a current sitting president had any power over the military industrial complex either. The office isn’t as powerful as many people like to think.

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              If its so ineffective, why are people scared of Trump getting it?

              The position wields a lot of power, its just being used to enable the harmful status quo currently.

              Like Biden could literally solve so much of the problems from the war on drugs, but he doesnt act. Its not a powerless position, its a weak president.

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                People are scared of Trump not leaving. Biden issued a bunch of orders that undid a bunch of Trump’s orders pretty much as soon as he got into office. Anything a president orders can be unordered by the next president. Presidential orders are not a silver bullet, they’re limited and can be undone as easily as they’re done. Considering there is a lot of budget money spent on military programs that congress doesn’t even know about, it’s not as easy to shut down as you people seem to think.

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                Trump has proven 0 respect for democracy or process, and went so far as to post his manifesto on his campaign website under the title “Project 2025”.

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          I don’t know maybe the support of an active ongoing mass cleansing operation might have something to do with it?

          It’s so bad you have child-fucker conservatives saying “too far” and these are the people who get off to children suffering.

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        He Essentially moved the whole democratic party right on the border and immigrants

        While I agree, it is with regret I have to inform you that those of us who want immigration reform are a minority in the Democratic party at this time :-/

        He originally was suppose to be a one term president.

        In fairness, he would have been if it weren’t for Trump running in 2024. I think EVERYONE was sure Trump would be forgotten in his jail cell by now with the combination of his blatent criminal activity alongside the fact the GOP really wanted to get rid of him anyway.

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          Doesn’t mean we couldn’t run anyone else. Like we could have propped up someone to run for the last 2 years so we can get them to run instead of Biden

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            Doesn’t mean we couldn’t run anyone else

            Sure, if we really want to take the biggest gamble of our lives surrendering the incumbent advantage to someone who technically might have an incumbent advantage of his own.

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      Lifelong blue-voter. Watched the SotU. He did a good job and certainly shut down the age argument a bit. I would still prefer to see younger candidates - I think Biden is out of touch.

      My thoughts are that we just haven’t made any progress on issues that affect the largest demographics of the population. A couple off the top of my head:

      • Corporate greed is driving inflation for food and homes while wages have stagnated.
      • College is prohibitively expensive and student loans are predatory (even federal loans). We are robbing our youth of a future.
      • Gun control progress is basically non existent despite more school shootings.

      A lot of my feelings can be summed up as the middle class is being squeezed too hard. We need more money or less expenses (school, healthcare, childcare, mortgage, rent, food, etc). I don’t see Biden doing anything here except ask nicely “pretty please snack companies stop gouging us” during the Superbowl. I also feel very gaslit because every day I see articles and press releases claiming how great the economy is, but my eyes and ears tell a very different story.

      Maybe Biden can’t fix these things without a functional Congress but I wish Dems wouldn’t lie and instead give us a real plan to fix the country. It’s really hard to get excited about voting blue when all we see is more aid for Israel and corporations instead of the people.

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        Unfortunately, with Republicans voting overwhelmingly even against bills they want with the goal of shutting down Democrats at every turn, there’s no such thing as a plan to fix the country until the Republican manacles are removed.

        But that’s hard to say eloquently, especially with a trailer trash MTG in her MAGA hat screaming “boooooo” at you.

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          There’s a lot of things Biden could do with presidential power, they could be attempted to be struck down by congress but at least do it and implement it, and then point out that the Republicans are trying to take it away.

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            There’s a lot of things Biden could do with presidential power

            And that’s their proclaimed defense. They don’t want to pass a law when he could hypothetically use his executive power instead.

            but at least do it and implement it,

            A good executive does not use unilateral powers on contentious issues when Congress is in a position to vote for it. Unlike some issues, since this is something Republicans want more than Democrats, it would be downright reckless for Biden to do so in this case, both in terms of political maneuvers AND in terms of actually solving any problems.

            This is literally Republicans trying to make Biden look bad for his own sake, and Biden doing the right thing and letting legislatures finish what they started, even if finishing involves a lack of agreement.

            …since when are we begging for Executive Orders?

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              When congress literally doesn’t do shit and the dem party supposedly wants people to keep voting for democrats.

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      Because I’m tired and cynical. He’s a career politician who’s always saying what he needs to say to stay in office at the time, but often ages poorly given enough time, example two. He’s being praised for his economic policy, but all that means to me is more consumption and pollution.

      I’m also cynical that any politician could get elected on an effective climate change platform as that would be the voting public would have to give up too much shit they were brainwashed into believed that they deserve.

      Did I watch the State of the Union? Have you seen the CO2 concentration levels? Speeches are theater.

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      just talked to a 20 yo dude about this who stumbled on a ‘trump destroys cnn reporter’ yt short and thought ‘well when he talks like this he’s not not that unlikable’.

      Basically he drank the koolaid. biden is a pedophile bc he sniffs hair, he’s old and senile, and like he said about the short, trump sometimes makes sense.

      I was flabbergasted. He’s from a conservative family, but falling for obvious cut together propaganda clips like that is just shameful. At least he’s usually trying to form rational thoughts. However, I’m afraid that might be indicative of the social media news syndrome.

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      When Trump was office liberals were up in arms ready to smash fascism. Biden came along and now they’re sitting comfortably at brunch while their government is literally funding and complicit in genocide. There is literally less suffering in the world when white people are the ones suffering, that’s just an objective fact. In a perfect world we wouldn’t have fascism at all but it may as well point at the people who actually deserve it. Alternatively they can get their shits in order and actually resist the evil of their own party but that will literally never happen.

      Right now we have “Fascism at white people, or fascism at black people” and all the white people are all crying “AT BLACK PEOPLE!!!”