• Pyro@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Calling black people “ebony” is like calling white people “porcelain”. It’s romanticising their skin colour. It may make sense for things like porn, but please don’t refer to any group with that sort of name in a normal context. It’s incredibly weird.

        • Pyro@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising, and then you were asked what word you’d use instead.
          At this moment it isn’t unreasonable to think the context has changed from porn community titles to your personal thoughts on how to refer to a specific ethnic group in any situation.
          That’s how I (and I assume many others) read the situation.

          • Pyff Daddy@lemmynsfw.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising

            No. Myself, and the commenter who was being responded to, said that referring to Black people as “blacks” is dehumanizing, which it is, and the context being asked for was an alternative term for an NSFW community. Hopefully that clarifies the issue.

    • Stinkywinks@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Pretty sure they prefer black like native Americans prefer Indians. Can we call people white? I’ve never heard anyone wants to be called ebony. I only know the term ebony from porn

      • Pyff Daddy@lemmynsfw.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        “Pretty sure they”…

        Nope, I’ll stop you right there. And the context is porn. Note, again, the term being discussed is not Black, which is perfectly kosher, but referring to Black people as “blacks”, which is considered dehumanizing.

        As for alternatives, the existing PoC-run reddit communities are called Ebony, GoneWildColor, GWBlackGirls, etc. Hopefully that gives you some insight.

        • Stinkywinks@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yeah because the majority of blacks use reddit and ebony porn sites. So do you call them ebonies?

          • Pyff Daddy@lemmynsfw.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Not exactly sure what you’re asking, but no, collective nouns aren’t generally pluralized in English, nor is the term appropriate outside of a porn context. Are you a native English speaker?

              • Pyff Daddy@lemmynsfw.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                It’s far more acceptable than “blacks”. It also avoids the issue of associating general search terms for groups of people with sexualized contexts as has unfortunately been done to Asian women and others.

                  • Pyff Daddy@lemmynsfw.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    Brazilian isn’t a race, and Black isn’t a nationality. Incredibly, it’s even possible to be both. I hope your confusion has been cleared up.

        • pascal@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          When I lived in Kenya, basically every one called me musungu which is used for westerns but means literally “white face”, I don’t think I felt dehumanised, but that was years ago before Chinese people invaded Kenya.