I really, and truly, don’t get why there are any mods left after this fiasco. If I were them I’d take down all the CSS and all the bots and all the things I’d worked on over the years and just quit. Reddit completely exists on the back of unpaid labor from the mods and they treat them like garbage. Not to mention that the overwhelming response I’m seeing from users is they despise the mods as well. So why are they even in this thing?
In my case, the biggest sub I help moderate has one mod who made the whole thing. From the ground-up, a great community of people, very few fights and a ton of people subscribed. It really is like a ‘model’ example of how the communities should work.
They jusy can’t understand how we’d be willing to throw it all away over a company’s stupid move. I guess in this instance, it is well over a decade of making a great place. And I can see why he feels awful.
But to me that is the only power we have…having people who will burn it down to make a stand.
I won’t be there after this month ends and my 3rd party apps go.
There were (are?) a few truly decent threads on Reddit. r/zappa in my opinion was far and away the most well run community on that entire site that i has experience with, though there were certainly others that i know of. I never recall a single toxic moment in many years of being there. I didn’t even check to see if they blacked out over this… I just did it on my own and I don’t think I’ll go back, to be honest… But it’s one place that I truly miss. I’ve only accessed the site from a third party app (RedReader) for the past 7 years or so, but I’ve been on Reddit from about 2009… My current account live since 2011. Even though RedReader got the exemption for its accessibility features, I still couldn’t stand for the principle behind this whole thing. There were some really good subreddits there, really good communities, and they’ll be missed, but it’s far more important to withdraw myself from that whole mess and take a firm stand by refusing to use the site. I saw some communities moderated by genuinely good people with genuinely good intentions, I hope that they have all left to make a stand against the data mining corporation that Reddit has become. You seem to be one of the decent ones. Thanks for having made the experience pleasant, but greater thanks for standing with your community and pulling the plug when the need arose. I hope you find a place to migrate to.
You are assuming that this moderator criticism applies universally; there are dozens of subs with fantastic, fair mods, which are the only ones I sub to. I actively avoid subs that have mods who I see lock or delete stuff too often for my taste. Reddit also has major pastimes like /r/FreeGameFindings that people are not willing to give up; that place is one of my favorite hobbies and I can only hope a Telegram bot gets generated to notify me of its Lemmy counterpart’s posts, as one does of the subreddit’s. (Someone, help!)
Mods’ CSS work may also serve as a real-life portfolio for actual jobs; who knows? The bots could also be, depending on the content, helping them make real money or otherwise find irl opportunities for preferred alternative fitness (/r/AppLab) or lifestyle preferences.
/r/MealPrepSunday is still going. /r/legaladvice is going. People get real-world help here and they aren’t willing to give that up. /r/BeerMoney is going absolutely strong and it literally helps people make money.
What these mods should be doing is staying open and making a pinned post saying “Consider joining our equivalent on Lemmy.” But within Reddit’s scope, they can shut that down, too. Reddit is a for-profit entity just like Facebook and Twitter, which have every right to clamp down on encouragement away to Mastodon, etc. Even if it makes them look bad.
So, as I asked someone else here who was criticizing the continuation of the API shutdown or why people are not being as vehemently opposed to it as some Lemmy migrants: what subs were you frequenting?
Lastly, I am a mod of dozens of smaller subs. What matters to me most is making sure everyone has a home to discuss their favorite topics. They’re generally niche enough to not actually need moderation, but I’m seeing I also don’t have enough time to figure out how to generate (or just plain generate) Lemmy counterparts for everything, though I used to have sufficient time in the past. People’s lives change but they depend on things that are important to them.
To all programmers, I am serious about all the extensive integrations into subs being a factor for why people still go there. I would love to see a Telegram bot for a counterpart to /r/GooglePlayDeals, like
https://t.me/r_googleplaydeals and /r/FreeGameFindings, like https://t.me/r_FreeGameFindings, which would help people leave more easily.
I really, and truly, don’t get why there are any mods left after this fiasco. If I were them I’d take down all the CSS and all the bots and all the things I’d worked on over the years and just quit. Reddit completely exists on the back of unpaid labor from the mods and they treat them like garbage. Not to mention that the overwhelming response I’m seeing from users is they despise the mods as well. So why are they even in this thing?
In my case, the biggest sub I help moderate has one mod who made the whole thing. From the ground-up, a great community of people, very few fights and a ton of people subscribed. It really is like a ‘model’ example of how the communities should work.
They jusy can’t understand how we’d be willing to throw it all away over a company’s stupid move. I guess in this instance, it is well over a decade of making a great place. And I can see why he feels awful.
But to me that is the only power we have…having people who will burn it down to make a stand.
I won’t be there after this month ends and my 3rd party apps go.
There were (are?) a few truly decent threads on Reddit. r/zappa in my opinion was far and away the most well run community on that entire site that i has experience with, though there were certainly others that i know of. I never recall a single toxic moment in many years of being there. I didn’t even check to see if they blacked out over this… I just did it on my own and I don’t think I’ll go back, to be honest… But it’s one place that I truly miss. I’ve only accessed the site from a third party app (RedReader) for the past 7 years or so, but I’ve been on Reddit from about 2009… My current account live since 2011. Even though RedReader got the exemption for its accessibility features, I still couldn’t stand for the principle behind this whole thing. There were some really good subreddits there, really good communities, and they’ll be missed, but it’s far more important to withdraw myself from that whole mess and take a firm stand by refusing to use the site. I saw some communities moderated by genuinely good people with genuinely good intentions, I hope that they have all left to make a stand against the data mining corporation that Reddit has become. You seem to be one of the decent ones. Thanks for having made the experience pleasant, but greater thanks for standing with your community and pulling the plug when the need arose. I hope you find a place to migrate to.
You are assuming that this moderator criticism applies universally; there are dozens of subs with fantastic, fair mods, which are the only ones I sub to. I actively avoid subs that have mods who I see lock or delete stuff too often for my taste. Reddit also has major pastimes like /r/FreeGameFindings that people are not willing to give up; that place is one of my favorite hobbies and I can only hope a Telegram bot gets generated to notify me of its Lemmy counterpart’s posts, as one does of the subreddit’s. (Someone, help!)
Mods’ CSS work may also serve as a real-life portfolio for actual jobs; who knows? The bots could also be, depending on the content, helping them make real money or otherwise find irl opportunities for preferred alternative fitness (/r/AppLab) or lifestyle preferences.
/r/MealPrepSunday is still going. /r/legaladvice is going. People get real-world help here and they aren’t willing to give that up. /r/BeerMoney is going absolutely strong and it literally helps people make money.
What these mods should be doing is staying open and making a pinned post saying “Consider joining our equivalent on Lemmy.” But within Reddit’s scope, they can shut that down, too. Reddit is a for-profit entity just like Facebook and Twitter, which have every right to clamp down on encouragement away to Mastodon, etc. Even if it makes them look bad.
So, as I asked someone else here who was criticizing the continuation of the API shutdown or why people are not being as vehemently opposed to it as some Lemmy migrants: what subs were you frequenting?
Lastly, I am a mod of dozens of smaller subs. What matters to me most is making sure everyone has a home to discuss their favorite topics. They’re generally niche enough to not actually need moderation, but I’m seeing I also don’t have enough time to figure out how to generate (or just plain generate) Lemmy counterparts for everything, though I used to have sufficient time in the past. People’s lives change but they depend on things that are important to them.
To all programmers, I am serious about all the extensive integrations into subs being a factor for why people still go there. I would love to see a Telegram bot for a counterpart to /r/GooglePlayDeals, like https://t.me/r_googleplaydeals and /r/FreeGameFindings, like https://t.me/r_FreeGameFindings, which would help people leave more easily.
Because there will be some mods that have been doing it, but think they can run things better.