• Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “Courtesy of th US of A” is more anti-US fluff than bare truth. Netanyahu and those of power in Isreal are due far more credit. Everyone involved is shite.

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      6 months ago

      i mean, the us of a is literally financing and enabling all of it…

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        No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement.

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          thats literally what we mean we we say the US is doing it.

          the fact you support it or not doesnt currently bear any weight on what is happening, and will continue to happen in there.

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            My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers …Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent… but this isn’t the US “doing it” we’re aiding a crooked ally. I’ve read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We’re a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I’m arguing semantics.

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              the war on gaza literally could not happen if the US wasn’t arming israel to the point they can be uncontested.

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                Could not CONTINUE, maybe… it’s fucked that we provide any support. We aren’t the only supporter here either, and I won’t agree with “this is ALL America’s fault!” like you’re saying.

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                  arguably israel wouldnt even exist today without the constant pumping of money and weapons by the US in the last 80 years or so.

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      6 months ago

      We deserve plenty of credit and i think passing it off as fluff is pretty disheartening to be frank.

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        What about this whole debacle ISN’T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we’re involved in IS moreso fluff… believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no “heartening” tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that’s not how “allies” work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war.

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          blaming the us in something the us is involved in is perfectly reasonable.

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            If you hadn’t said “finanacing and enabling ALL of it”, I’d agree. We aren’t the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse.

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      6 months ago

      Without our funding they couldn’t do what they are doing. We are paying for the genocide. Take that shit somewhere else you liberal nazi.