There’s also the question of has there been ever been any radical media (I’d argue no), but I feel like civil war could have been so much better had they actually taken a side you know? And I feel like there is some value in being on the fence from an entertainment POV but I sort of expected art from A24

Like does anyone remember that one show (adult swim maybe) where they pushed boundaries so fucking much to the point of asking a child to ask people on Wall Street who they exploited? It really seems like the daily show on the street segments mocking people with no power other than who they choose to vote for has taken over. It’s so fucking ominous because I know some of those people sure and they should be subject to reeducation, but each and everyone got a lucky break tomaybe retire one day

Like when you think about it like that, what are we fucking doing

  • Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    6 months ago

    The show with kids asking wall street types about why they’re bad people was Wonder Showzen. It was on MTV (or 2?) during their animation phase. Being slightly edgy was their attempt to get views from college kids.

    I’m not aware of anything other than works by commies in less reactionary countries that are truly radical, like they relate your current situation to organizing for revolution explicitly enough that it is understood as such. It’s important to understand that liberals don’t really understand the obvious metaphors for left action and organizing, they are too ignorant of what to recognize.

    For example, Sorry to Bother You is a radical movie that uses (great) ham-fisted metaphors in a near-future environment and the liberals still didn’t get it. Liberals also didn’t get most of the movies/shows I’ll list at the end.

    I think movies that were more direct would simply not get produced, or at least not most of the time, for a host of reasons: (1) it doesn’t slot into producers’ cookie cutter ideas of profitability to explain anti-capitalist revolution in real rather than cartoonish terms, (2) producers are ideologically capitalist and will balk at a direct criticism that they understand and think could produce a credible threat to themselves or their idea of themselves, (3) there are too few people with established careers that want to make this content, the industry (and society) already selects for the intentionally bland or liberal.

    Anyways we do have some decent radical media just with that caveat that liberals don’t get it because they’re politically ignorant.

    • Sorry to Bother You

    • Andor

    • Snowpiercer

    • Parasite

    • Okja

    The above movies aren’t even the usual Hollywood appropriation of leftist themes that have been so divorced from context that they become bland and in support of liberalism, e.g. being the collectivist “underdog” fighting “the oppressor”. They smack you over the head with revolution due to anti-capitalism and/or an imperialist entity. Andor has parts literally modeled after the life of Young Stalin. And the liberals still don’t get it. They require explainers in their media sources to relay its meaning to them and those explainers also usually don’t really get it.

    I think that if we want radical media that appeals to the masses we should do everything we can to educate the masses so that they recognize and understand what it means to be radical. That it’s not an aesthetic, it’s an analysis and opposition to capitalism and there are patterns and schools of thought and it is very relevant to their daily lives.

  • bigboopballs [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Like does anyone remember that one show (adult swim maybe) where they pushed boundaries so fucking much to the point of asking a child to ask people on Wall Street who they exploited?

    Wonder Showzen was crazy. They actually aired “dirt-bag left” content on television. And it was probably the last time that will ever happen.