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There are many lemmy instances in the world, but currently most people are using lemmy.world. This is why everything has gotten so slow.

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  • _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    1 year ago

    So can I just start running my only instance on my home server and just let only a few friends use it, then federate with the rest?

  • IceQuest@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    1 year ago

    I tried to migrate to another instance by rejoining the same communities as this account. However I can’t seem to find some of the communities anymore through the other instance’s search page. There’s no indication that there’s any defederation going on.

    I still have no idea what a proper community joining process is. I just go to the search page, type it in and scroll through the random comments until I find a link to a community.

    If only I could just copy the community link, right now it’ll just open up with lemmy.world again, so I have to go through the other instance’s search page. Please let me know if there’s a guide of any kind.

    Edit: Ok you need to manually type the URLs. E.g. if you wanted to open this community on lemmy.ml, type “lemmy.ml/c/[email protected]”

    That’s a kinda clunky experience ngl. How is the average normie going to feel about appending URLs in the address bar tho.

  • gunslingerfry@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    1 year ago

    Yeah. This is all I see: Software: Lemmy Signups: no

    As long as this tool includes people’s personal instances, it’s useless.

    • MBM@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      1 year ago

      “Signups: no” can also just mean that your sign-up will be checked manually, like on older instances like beehaw and sopuli

      • 🇺🇦 Max UL@lemmy.proEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        Yeah they really need to update that binary presentation. Our instance says no registrations, but we do have them open, you just gotta pass the requirements: email, sign up question and captcha.

  • Xyre@lemmus.orgEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    I think the concerns about smaller instances are valid (as I post from lemmus.org). Some additional data points to consider when evaluating an instance would be whether they’re running a recent version and the uptime of the instance.

    It’d probably be a good idea to have a page that promotes these smaller instances that ‘score’ well to help distribute some of the load.

  • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    Something like this needs to be incorporated by devs at the UX onboarding level if you want success.

    During mass migration times, you need to really hold new users hands to curate a path towards community ideals. Needs to be as easy as clicking boxes to attempt to create accounts on multiple instances and then app defaults to the local option to start, or something similar.

    You’ll only get a few crumbs here and there from dedicated people if it’s that manual of a process.

  • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.worldEnglish
    92·
    1 year ago

    If someone’s looking for an instance, feel free to use mine, lemmings.world. As a bonus, you can call yourself a lemming! It’s hosted in Germany.

  • Playingwithethenew@kbin.social
    5·
    1 year ago

    I am planning on moving to lemmy.blahaj.zone soon-ish but I have 2 questions.

    1. How do I move to another instance?

    2. Can I move freely? For example, could I switch to lemmy.blahaj.zone to lemmy.world to kbin.social every day? I don;t like the idea of being “tied down” to an instance for a long time.

    • wrath-sedan@kbin.social
      7·
      1 year ago

      As far as I know, account migration from one instance to another is currently not possible on kbin/lemmy but with the sudden influx of users and developers I believe it is on the roadmap for at least kbin and likely lemmy too. For now you’ll have to use multiple accounts, but eventually you should be able to migrate if you choose to.

        • wrath-sedan@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          Yeah do whatever you decide is best! No right way to do it. Some have suggested just considering accounts temporary as we all experiment with what works best until more features are rolled out. But I know I’m already attached to my existing accounts and reluctant to make more.

    • miles@discuss.onlineOPEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      you can have accounts on multiple instances, go ahead and sign up. your info is NOT transferred, so you’ll need to re-subscribe to your communities, and your posts stay on the instance you wrote them from.

  • d_cent@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    Wouldn’t this put me at risk of that smaller instance defederizing and removing everything I contribute while logged in to that instance?

    • BlackCat@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
      91·
      1 year ago

      This is whats kind of not clear to me. While its clear what the benefit is for lemmy.world or some instance you move from, its less clear what the benefit for the individual moving is such as myself. I have more risk, its a hassle, the smaller server might itself get overloaded or break. Sometimes it feels ‘safer in numbers’. Unsure. Feels like I would be best off if everyone else moved and took on the risk while I stayed and reaped the benefits of them reducing the load rather than me doing it.

      • d_cent@lemm.eeEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        Someone explained it a little better in another post. It will not erase my content. So if I’m logged in under my lemm.ee account but post on a lemmy.world instance. If for some reason lemm.ee got defederized, my post or comments would still be there at lemmy.world I would just not be able to use my lemm.ee account going forward.

        It seems like this is the way to go like OP says

  • app_priori@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    1 year ago

    I would add that the risk of joining a small server is that the owner can suddenly delete them at any time and you would have to start all over again elsewhere. Best thing to do is to make an account on the large instances only.

      • Coelacanth@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        It’s run through the Open Collective, and is also run by Ruud who runs one of the larger Mastodon instances as well as some other stuff on the Fediverse I believe. They’re a fairly trusted actor in the space and I think pretty transparent with everything they do which is probably another reason many people flocked there.

        • Muddybulldog@mylemmy.winEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I’m a little confused by your comment. What function does Open Collective serve other than simply as a fiscal host?

          • Coelacanth@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            A reliable pipeline for donations, transparency and experience running large Fediverse servers (EDIT: list of Fediverse servers run by Ruud). You’re right that they’re not directly involved in running the server, I had misunderstood that and thought they were directly associated for some reason.

          • Coelacanth@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            You’re absolutely right, I had completely misunderstood its involvement for some reason. Still, Ruud’s experience in the Fediverse running mastodon.world gives me reason to believe lemmy.world will be reliable too.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      There is a very large range between tiny instance that can disappear overnight and “large instance”. The large instances are actually more likely to disappear as their hosting costs are beyond what a small group of admins can pay out of their own pocket easily, so they vitally depend on donations and that can break down easily for many reasons.

      • app_priori@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I disagree. The large Mastodon instances have managed to survive for a while on donations. I haven’t seen a large Mastodon instance go kaput (though you can correct me if I’m wrong).

        • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          There were certainly some that had to close registrations as their donation base was insufficient for the number of users trying to sign up. And others were sold to very questionable companies as they couldn’t finance themselves otherwise.

          But that wasn’t my argument. We are talking about things that can go wrong with instances. Just because you didn’t see any large instances go down in this “nice weather” period, doesn’t mean they are resilient to serious shocks.

          A small to medium sized instance that is basically run as a hobby by a few admins and is optimized for being cheap enough to not need donations is the much more sustainable and resilient instance.

          • app_priori@lemmy.worldEnglish
            0·
            1 year ago

            Yeah but then you run into the risk of federation/defederation politics. We’ve already have had a major instance defederate.

            • Spzi@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              How is this related to instance size? There are large instances which defederate (I think most do), and small instances which do not.

              If anything, I’d see it as an argument for joining small ones. There, your voice can have a bigger impact on federation decisions.

              Mostly I think if you care about federation status, be sure to join an instance with a federation policy which you like.

            • Blóðbók@slrpnk.netEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              That is why you would want to choose an instance that aligns with your values, so that if they defederate, it is to your benefit.

  • Ignacio@kbin.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    I’ve just discovered that kbin.social is near Wichita. Does that mean that ernest is John Rambo? 💪😎🤜

  • Rhaedas@kbin.social
    1·
    1 year ago

    There are two things being discussed here. The first is the original suggestion of the account you’d log into and use as a server for pulling information. The other some have mentioned is the location of communities. They both share similar problems in an overloaded or defunct instance situation, but need different solutions.

    For the account I think just one main thing needs developing, and that’s the ability to share a profile across different logins. So you can have two or three different logins, but you have the same settings and when people interact with you they see you as the same umbrella/main account. I’m not sure how this could work outside Lemmy, like kbin or even Mastodon without being part of the protocol itself, but maybe that’s a long range idea. There’s also the problem of name collision since there’s enough accounts now that duplication is probably a thing. The choice right now is limited to just making accounts in a few places and see if things are better/same/worse there before you get too invested with customizing your stuff.

    For instances - I had seen a suggestion of having a grouping ability between different instances that wanted to share or mirror each others content, basically an automated cross-posting. This would allow multiple instances so if one has some problem, the content still exists. There’s lots of caveats with that I’m sure, but one of the laments from many Redditors is the loss of resources, and that really should be a high priority to make sure that content is both preserved and available. For now the best we can do is make communities in a few places and cross-post the more important things so more people read and respond to it.