• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Ahhh, yeah, the good ol “kick a nazi, its good!” meme.

    Meanwhile in reality, what happens is that little dipshits get angry because people disagree with them, and they immediately call everyone a nazi and start threatening them.

    Violence is not the answer, keep talking. (Almost) Nobody is pure evil and most people need a good talking and or listening to toake them see that they’re wrong

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      5 months ago

      Back when I was a youth, nazis used to make it a point to show up where they knew they were not wanted. We actually used to punch nazis with regularity. They started this in the late 70s and by the late 90s were realizing they were outnumbered, and getting their asses kicked. In the situations where they did prevail, initially, was when they lurked about waiting for someone to walk out of a gay club, or a place in which they had gotten kicked the shit out of themselves, and when that person was isolated they would drive up and jump out of their truck and gang beat the person. They called it a boot party, because they would literally stomp the person into the concrete. If you had the misfortune of being a lesbian, that was targeted, you would be raped. However this was getting more, and more, police attention as society started to force the police to investigate crimes against people they saw as less than human.

      So they mostly stopped shaving their heads, color coding their boot laces, and tattooing their affiliations/crimes on their bodies, and started shaving their faces, donning suites, and focused on coding their language. They consciously made the decision to move towards a professional appearance, value business acumen, and work on spreading their message in a way that was less offensive to new prospects. While they kept targeting sub-cultural groups for their largely white, disaffected, male populations, they focused on bigger targets. Online video games, with a focus on games like WOW. They embraced social media and worked to make themselves ever more savvy with the use of the internet, and their abilities in media, and public relations.

      Are there still boot-boys out there, with their skin heads? Yes, there is still a group that they attract, and those people are valued because they are more likely to be willing to do crime and enact violence. However most of them now are the youtube alt-right.

      But yes, kicking the shit out of nazis forces them out places they are not wanted. It worked so well they spent decades transforming the whole movement specifically to avoid as much in person contact with non-nazis as they could.

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      5 months ago

      You know the liberal in the “scratch a fascist and a liberal bleeds” saying?

      Yeah… that’s you.

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      Ah yes, the talking that worked so well to stop the Nazi regime in the 40’s. The good old World Debate II, won by the allies by convincing Adolf with sharp insights. How could we ever forget.

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        Are you daft or just trying to appear so?

        I’m talking about individuals, not regimes.

        The more violent you get, the more violent they get and no-one is talking and shit only gets worse.

        We ban all the people with opinions we don’t like because thats much easier than having actual fucking conversations and actually listening to people and trying to understand where they’re coming from and why they have auch opinions.

        In short: YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

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      Violence is not the answer

      The joke of the modern moment is liberals posting edgy “Beat The Nazis!” memes online, then moaning over anyone out in the streets doing actual protests or obstruction efforts or BSD actions must be a bunch of Radical Tankies ruining the movement for the rest of us.

      So much of modern politics is just posturing. So, by all means, flex your muscles in your Facebook bio and post AI art of high profile politicians in prison stripes. But for the love of god, don’t actually DO anything. Certainly nothing so radical that a police officer might be inclined to show up and start pushing you around.