Steven Pinker explains the cognitive biases we all suffer from and how they can short-circuit rational thinking and lead us into believing stupid things. Skip to 12:15 to bypass the preamble.

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    5 months ago

    As someone who has worked on documentaries, depending on your definition of “garbage,” yes. They are. Because all of them, every single one, is not only edited to show the biased perspective of both the director and the producers, along with the editor themselves, they are also filled with things like added sound-effects, narration that misconstrues what is going on or just adds emotion when emotion is not warranted based on the original footage, taking things out of context to improve the storyline, etc.

    For example, the best David Attenborough nature documentary you can think of is full of artifice. Almost none of the animal sounds in nature documentaries were collected at the same time as the video because they’re usually shooting from quite a distance and either the microphone is too directional, in which case you have to add background noise in post or they don’t have enough of a directional microphone, in which case you have to add the noise you want in post. Occasionally, these days, software is used to isolate certain noises. That, again, is artifice.

    So no, you cannot trust anything you see in a documentary. Ever. The only truths you should ever trust in a film of any sort is the truths you learn about yourself from watching it. Anything else could be a lie.

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      Almost none of the animal sounds in nature documentaries were collected at the same time as the video because they’re usually shooting from quite a distance and either the microphone is too directional.

      That doesn’t make it garbage.

      every single one, is not only edited to show the biased perspective of both the director and the producers, along with the editor themselves

      With that restriction, all education is garbage. Professors have bias, even in hard sciences.

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          My claim is that making the animal sounds clearer so that there is no confusion for the listener is not garbage under any definition.

          Replacing the original with a better representation is exactly what you want for education.

          Am I learning the sound of a finch or a cardinal? How can I learn if both are singing at the same time because that’s what actually happened in the real life filming?

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            My claim is that making the animal sounds clearer so that there is no confusion for the listener is not garbage under any definition.

            And if that were the only thing I said, you’d have a point.

            It was far from the only thing I said.

            In fact, you’re even misrepresenting that part of what I said. I said that occasionally software is used to clarify audio. Far more often, it’s just added in post from a sound effect library or foley artist. It may not even be a noise that animal ever makes.

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              Far more often, it’s just added in post from a sound effect library or foley artist. It may not even be a noise that animal ever makes.

              I didn’t claim it was only cleaning the audio. It was my intention that an artificial substitution can the best thing to do for education.

              Your original post didn’t mention that the wrong sounds are used. That’s completely different.

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                5 months ago

                My post did mention other things that you decided not to bring up- namely the bias of the production team and the tone of the narrator.

                I mentioned those first specifically because they were the most important.

                I could point out that music also creates an artificial mood which might not reflect the reality of what was shot.

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                  bias of the production team and the tone of the narrator.

                  Which I already addressed by claiming professors have bias even in hard sciences.

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                    5 months ago

                    Professors have academic expertise in their subject and try to bring it to bear in their papers.

                    Producers want the best reaction to get viewers so that the documentary makes money.

                    They have slightly different goals.

                    I’m amazed you aren’t aware of the fact that the primary purpose of most documentaries is to make money, either directly in theaters or indirectly by bringing viewers in the TV channel or streaming service.