The cost of simply retrieving an answer from the Web is infinitely smaller than the cost of generating a new one.

Great interview with Sasha Luccioni from Huggingface on all the ways that using generative AI for everything is both a) hugely costly compared to existing methods, and b) insane.

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      He was also claiming AI would destroy us a few years ago. (Not talking about climate, skynet style)

      Side note: listening to him is as bad as listening to a celebrity.

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        Maybe worse, since society considers him a SME on subjects he isn’t, she they listen to his word as though it’s coming from an actual SME.

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    Tech could save us, but not AI. The tech that could isn’t profitable enough to do so, though, so it’s not happening. And it’s not like oil corp. shareholders & execs are gonna accept a pay cut so that their subsidies could be redirected to more ecologically sustainable tech. Nope, we live in capitalist hell. At least, until we don’t.

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      I’m cheered that we now have so much wind and solar wanting to come online that it’s straining grid interconnects so countries (US and NL for example) suddenly have to spend a bundle on infra so that the power can get across continents to where it’s needed

      this is a very cool problem to have: oh no! we have too much new clean energy!

      it may not be sufficient, but it’s an excellent start

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    Nope it isn’t. You blame AI companies for pollution they didn’t generate. Blame the energy sector.

    Why the hell aren’t we using mix of nuclear and renewables in this day and age is beyond me

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      holy shit your post history of full of takes this bad, that’s an impressive track record of dim. must be exhausting

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        oh wow there’s some literal “it’s not a nazi unless it’s an old dead German” shit in there, they’re that kind of fash debatebro

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          yeah, they don’t teach much about fascist atrocities in ethiopia, and then people feel compelled to defend the good name of the boys in the black shirts because the poor dupes didn’t build the concentration camps – just were allied to the builders.

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        And yet, my opponents in discussion failed to provide good counterarguments. You aren’t going to convince me of anything by hating my post history

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          And yet, my opponents in discussion

          good gods you’re going to be the most insufferable kind of person, aren’t you

          You aren’t going to convince me of anything

          this was a bit of a given

          bet you also think the climate cost of cryptocurrency is also a failing of the energy sector to deliver clean power to the innocent sweet little industrial-scale mining tycoons, don’t you

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          Nope it isn’t. You blame AI companies for pollution they didn’t generate. Blame the energy sector.

          don’t talk about providing good counterarguments, please

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            see, because they can’t provide their own, talking about good arguments is all they have left

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            What, you want to tell me I’m somehow obligated to exactly know where and how every service I use is produced?

            Talk about a horrible take.

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              it’s not “hating your post history”, it’s just realisation that you’re a shitty debatelord and talking to you is waste of time.

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                it’s not “hating your post history”

                it has been [0] days since I got accused of having emotions about a driveby poster

                how rude

                (e: not that you did it ofc, flere, but ykwim)

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                And yet you’re talking to me… To prove some point perhaps? Feel free to ignore or block me if you don’t like my posts.

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      Since we aren’t using those it is in fact a climate disaster currently and they know that.

      Assuming you want to ground your argument in our reality.