• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Acknowledging without celebrating is being mean?

    Now you’re just playing with definitions.

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      5 months ago

      No, people just keep replying to what they think I mean instead of the words I am typing.

      Putting someone’s decision to be slightly less shitty as a reason things are looking up is celebrating them. No, they don’t fucking deserve a headline for being slightly less shitty because of a personal connection to the issue. That is such a selfish reason to change.

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        5 months ago

        Or, some MAGoo who has turned their back on their own LBGTA+ kid sees the headline and reconsiders their choices.

        Most people don’t have a sudden revelation that changes them overnight. It’s usually a long, slow erosion of their old ideas.

        If you want to win elections you do whatever it takes to build up the coalition. If that means latecomers get a big welcome then it’s a tiny price to pay.

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          5 months ago

          Fuck old bigots, they can’t die off fast enough.

          Young people being open minded is what we should celebrate.

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            5 months ago

            It’s like you refuse to understand how elections work.

            Also, a lot of those ‘old bigots’ are in their 40s and 50s; they’re going to be around for the next few decades. You may be happy waiting until 2044 for a big win, but most people aren’t

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              5 months ago

              We aren’t going to win consistently by appeasing terrible people who can’t change for the better without being celebrated. They will backslide the moment they run into anything that reinforces their bigotry if they don’t keep getting praised for being a decent person in public.

              I am in my 40s and have seen this multiple times, people temporarily stopping their bigotry for a while because of pressure from friends but then reverting the moment some bigoted group makes them feel good about their bigotry again.

              The only ones that overcome their negative influences long term are the ones who actually felt bad about how they acted in the past.

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                5 months ago

                I am in my 40s and have seen this multiple times, people temporarily stopping their bigotry for a while because of pressure from friends but then reverting the moment some bigoted group makes them feel good about their bigotry again.

                So, by your own words, we should keep them engaged.