Ah, right. I believe the original question in this thread was calling out the tankies who say both candidates are bad and the voting will not accomplish anything to say what the actual plan is, so not aimed at you.
Both candidates are bad. I’m still with Capable Kamala all the way. This is because I have the apparently rare gift among leftists of being able to do things I don’t like for a good reason.
The way this debate has been framed recently, everyone’s talking as though leftists only care about instant gratification and doing things that feel good. I have a bit more long term thinking than that.
To be fair, most leftists are with you on doing whatever is possible to avoid the rise of fascism, including voting for the less shitty candidate. There still exists this false narrative that all leftists are against voting for the less shitty candidate. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s simpler to pretend the group is a monolith and that these few speak for everyone, that it’s propaganda spread by conservative sources to reduce left spectrum cohesion, or because it’s a lie spread by idiots who use sensationalism to attract attention online. I think it’s probably a little of all three.
Either way, you’re not alone. I run in a few leftist circles and rarely encounter anyone who is actually not voting in protest or something equally stupid.
Thank you. Yeah, I still think the people who are behaving centrist at the voting booth are centrists. It’s infuriating that these trolls keep calling me a liberal. They’re trying to control the conversation and make their beliefs the only reality. They even briefly tricked Ada into calling me a moderate.
Yes I can see. Thank you for the practical (well, mostly) answers. I agree with a lot of them, and as it happens many are part of the “Democratic march to fascism” as our other “progressive”,”leftist” commenters would have it.
As a leftist who understands we have to work with what we have, I’d suggest you’re also under constant disparagement from “progressives” and “the left”. After all, you support our march to fascism, you see.
It doesn’t. I’m with Capable Kamala all the way.
Ah, right. I believe the original question in this thread was calling out the tankies who say both candidates are bad and the voting will not accomplish anything to say what the actual plan is, so not aimed at you.
Both candidates are bad. I’m still with Capable Kamala all the way. This is because I have the apparently rare gift among leftists of being able to do things I don’t like for a good reason.
The way this debate has been framed recently, everyone’s talking as though leftists only care about instant gratification and doing things that feel good. I have a bit more long term thinking than that.
To be fair, most leftists are with you on doing whatever is possible to avoid the rise of fascism, including voting for the less shitty candidate. There still exists this false narrative that all leftists are against voting for the less shitty candidate. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s simpler to pretend the group is a monolith and that these few speak for everyone, that it’s propaganda spread by conservative sources to reduce left spectrum cohesion, or because it’s a lie spread by idiots who use sensationalism to attract attention online. I think it’s probably a little of all three.
Either way, you’re not alone. I run in a few leftist circles and rarely encounter anyone who is actually not voting in protest or something equally stupid.
Thank you. Yeah, I still think the people who are behaving centrist at the voting booth are centrists. It’s infuriating that these trolls keep calling me a liberal. They’re trying to control the conversation and make their beliefs the only reality. They even briefly tricked Ada into calling me a moderate.
Yes I can see. Thank you for the practical (well, mostly) answers. I agree with a lot of them, and as it happens many are part of the “Democratic march to fascism” as our other “progressive”,”leftist” commenters would have it.
As a leftist who understands we have to work with what we have, I’d suggest you’re also under constant disparagement from “progressives” and “the left”. After all, you support our march to fascism, you see.
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