• woodgen@lemm.ee
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      4 个月前

      Lets wait for any LLM do a single sucessful MR on Github first before starting a project on its own. Not aware of any.

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      there isn’t a single serious project written exclusively or mostly by an LLM? There isn’t a single library or remotely original application

      IMHO “original” here is the key. Finding yet another clone of a Web framework ported from one language to another in order to push online a basic CMS slightly faster, I can imagine this. In fact I even bet that LLM, because they manipulate words in languages and that code can be safely (even thought not cheaply) tested within containers, could be an interesting solution for that.

      … but that is NOT really creating value for anyone, unless that person is technically very savvy and thus able to leverage why a framework in a language over another creates new opportunities (say safety, performances, etc). So… for somebody who is not that savvy, “just” relying on the numerous existing already existing open-source providing exactly the value they expect, there is no incentive to re-invent.

      For anything that is genuinely original, i.e something that is not a port to another architecture, a translation to another language, a slight optimization, but rather something that need just a bit of reasoning and evaluating against the value created, I’m very skeptical, even less so while pouring less resources EVEN with a radical drop in costs.

    • Hawk@lemmynsfw.com
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      4 个月前

      My last employer had many internal tools that were fine.

      They had only a moderate amount of oversight.

      I had to find a new job, I’m actually thinking of walking away from software development now that there are so few jobs :(

      It sucks but there’s no sense pretending this won’t have a large impact on the job landscape.

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          Mostly internal data cleaning stuff, close etc, which I accept is less in scope than you’re original comment.

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            4 个月前

            The things you are describing sound like if-statement levels of automation, GitHub Actions with preprogrammed responses rather than LLM whatever.

            If you’re worrying about being replaced by that… Go find the code, read it, and feel better.

            • Hawk@lemmynsfw.com
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              4 个月前

              The code was non trivial and relatively sophisticated. It performed statistical analysis on ingested data and the approach taken was statistically sound.

              I was replaced by that. So was my colleague.

              The job market is exceptionally tough right now and a large part of that is certainly llms.

              I think taking people with statistical training out of the equation is quite dangerous, but it’s happening. In my area, everybody doing applied mathematics, statistics or analysis has been laid off.

              In saying that, the produced program was quite good.

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                4 个月前

                Certainly sounds more interesting than my original read of it! Sorry about that, I was grumpy.

                • Hawk@lemmynsfw.com
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                  All good man.

                  I think the point is that LLMs can replace people and they are quite good.

                  But they absolutely shouldn’t replace people, yet, or possibly ever.

                  But that’s what’s happening and it’s a massive problem because it’s leading to mediocre code in important spaces.