• FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    A lot of people are both pushing Harris on this issue, and warning that Trump would be far worse.

    A lot of us who are worried about Trump getting elected, ie. me who is disabled and bedridden, if I lose Social Security I die, also don’t have the capacity to push Harris much as those who would suffer the most under a Trump term, tend to be the most vulnerable people in society.

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      A lot of people are both pushing Harris on this issue

      No, you’re not, unless you’re a billionaire. Kamala doesn’t even have policy positions on her website. It’s just a short bio and a donation portal.

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        Republicans however have made their plans clear. They plan to cut medicare, ACA, planned parenthood funding and lots of other affordable health care (in addition to all the other heinous Heritage Foundation shit)

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          Isn’t that wild?

          That we have a legit fascist candidate, and the fascist is the only one willing to say publicly what they actually support? All Democrats have offered voters so far are variations on two memes: Joy and weirdness.

          Kamala doesn’t even have policy positions on her website, which if you ask me, is basic functionality for any politician.

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            Trump plans on installing himself as a dictator from day one. Not sure how you could protest or influence him to do anything.

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              I understand that.

              But the thing is, if you’re a wage earner, you’re already living in a dictatorship. You need 2-3 jobs to survive in this country, hardly the bastion of freedom it claims to be.

              The Dems can meme about joy all they want, but if you’re a wage earner chances are pretty good you’re not feeling it.

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            If you mean completely change a candidate to fit your views, no it’ll never work. But protesting tends to put pressure and marginally improve candidates.

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              I mean the number of broken promises is so extensive with Obama that you might as well have voted Republican instead.

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                No. I my family would have put me in a shitty nursing home if it wasn’t for the affordable care act.

                Yes, these politicians are nowhere near my or your ideology. But having one over the other significantly impacts millions of lives. Don’t neglect that if you have the privilege not to be significantly impacted.

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                  if it wasn’t for the affordable care act

                  I’m glad it worked out for you.

                  I think it’s a significant problem that it doesn’t work for the tens of millions of Americans who can’t withstand being price gouged. For them, the access promised by the ACA doesn’t exist.

                  And I think it’s significant (especially now) that Obama had the problem to make major, substantial change and didn’t. He had the power to codify abortion into law and didn’t. He had the power to pass the ENDA and didn’t. He had the power to enact universal health care and didn’t.

                  But he made absolutely sure no one involved in crashing the economy served any jail time, and in fact, rewarded them with our cash for their efforts.

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                    I won’t pretend to be an expert on much of this, but I feel it’s wrong to say that he had the power to enact universal healthcare? Obama couldn’t even get a public option (which he wanted) because he had to make concessions to get a veto proof majority. I don’t see if this was the case that he had the power to enact full blown universal healthcare

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          Protesting only works because it comes with an implicit threat. In this case the threat is “you will lose the election if you don’t listen.”