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    Trump didn’t “win” the first debate, but I don’t think that’s why he’s not agreeing to another debate. And I know a lot of people are going to write this off as Trump being scared to debate Kamala Harris again, but I think we all know that’s not the case.

    This guy’s opinion isn’t worth hearing if he thinks “we all know” that Trump isn’t scared to do it again. He got rocked by both Harris and himself. It’s like he was a performer doing a parody of Trump. I don’t understand how anyone could watch the debate and think that he’s not losing it.

    She knows exactly how to push his buttons. Did you see his face when she made fun of his obsession with crowds? From then on, he did nothing but bury himself further.

    He’s scared. And all the Republicans saying he did poorly is triggering him further. His ego can’t take it and we’re watching it slowly tear itself apart.

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      Yet her goal is to influence voters which she didn’t do. So really she didn’t win anything. It’s weird how the left thinks acting foolish wins a debate.

      Debates are to change the views of voters to win the election. As of now, Trump is expected to beat Harris in the election.

      So what did she “win”?

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        “Acting foolish” in what way exactly? She actually expressed ideas for policy and acted professional while Trump just whined, attacked with lies and moaned in a slovenly way, with a few notable outbursts about bullshit.

        As of now, Trump is expected to beat Harris in the election.

        Expected by whom? That does not seem to be the consensus in any media I consume or with people I’ve talked to.

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          she constantly lied and never really answered a question.

          Expected by whom? That does not seem to be the consensus in any media I consume or with people I’ve talked to.

          The experts. Nate Silver predicts that Trump’s odds are at 65%.

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            That’s a wild analysis about her lying constantly. It’s so bizarre that someone would hear trumps endless spew of nonsense and then say that about Harris.

            Sorry to have to mention reality, but that is not what Silver is saying currently:

            https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

            Harris wins 61 times out of 100 in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election. Trump wins 39 times out of 100.

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              Just noticed you cited 538 when I was citing Nate Silver. 538 has nothing to do with Nate Silver. He left some time ago and has called out the bad changes to their model.

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              It’s weird that I mentioned Kamala and that you kick in talking about Trump. Are you unable to talk about Kamala?

              https://news.yahoo.com/news/nate-silver-slammed-over-trump-174617514.html

              No, that is what he has been saying.

              Last week, for instance, his forecast gave Trump a 64% chance of winning the Electoral College while giving Vice President Kamala Harris just a 35% chance of victory, even while the same forecast saw Harris as more likely to win the popular vote and his polling averages had her leading in enough swing states to take the election.

              You article is from today, so I will have to read that.

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                We can discuss Harris, sure. However, the topic was a debate - so yes, the idea is comparing the two. Trump was slovenly, unhinged and incoherent, but you somehow didn’t notice and claim that Harris did a bad job? Your interpretation is so distorted that I’m not sure it’s worth addressing.

                okay, so Silver is working for Peter Theil now. Good to know.

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        Hmmm did I say she won anything? Once again proving your inability to read.

        Trump made a fool of himself then went on to say how everyone agrees he won. He rambled about disproven claims and didn’t bring up any real policy. It’s weird how the right thinks acting foolish wins a debate. Anyone that was positively influenced by his debate performance is a fucking moron because that was even more embarrassing than Biden’s debate

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          Just imagine beholding Trump, everything from his very foolish appearance, to the horrible things he says, his complete lack of understanding about almost every issues (dumbfuck is still acting like other countries pay tariffs, to say nothing of retaliation and trade wars), his deranged ramblings, moody insults, defensiveness, and not being repulsed. Makes no sense to me. On the other hand I’ve seen people “I don’t like trump, but I’m voting for him because I think he’d be better on 2A”. Sure, brilliant.

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          You said he was rocked by Harris which is false. She didn’t rock anything. You said in your comment he was losing it. He lost nothing.

          No, it was not as bad as Biden’s debate. That is just a weird thing to say.

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            She fact checked the shit out of him and straight up laughed at the ridiculous stuff he was saying. She pushed his buttons.

            He’s absolutely losing IT - as in his mind. He’s been falling apart since getting shot and you could see him break further during the debate.

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              Sounds like we watched two different debates entirely. I found it very boring with both of them fibbing up a storm.

              If Kamala did such a great job, why is she still expected to lose to Trump?